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Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:49 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
Its a moot point as it isn't going to happen.
Hypothetically speaking, if Mexico were to invade and take a large swath of US territory, would you be in favor of just giving it to them to stop the war? It's the same thing.
Hypothetically speaking, if Mexico were to invade and take a large swath of US territory, would you be in favor of just giving it to them to stop the war? It's the same thing.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:03 pm to Chromdome35
Zelensky tweet:
LOL. So far, the poll has 91% in favor of supporting Ukraine.
LINK
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Which @elonmusk do you like more?
- One who supports Ukraine?
- One who supports Russia?
LOL. So far, the poll has 91% in favor of supporting Ukraine.
LINK
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:04 pm to Arksulli
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As some military experts are saying we are watching one of the great operational level campaigns in modern warfare.
Strategy is the big goal, we want to conquer Absurdistan by seizing its major cities. Tactical is small stuff, we want to take this ridge that oversees these enemy forces so we can force them out of this position. Operations is how you get from one to the other.
The Ukraine military spent months talking up the major counteroffensive in the South around Kherson. Russia rushes reinforcements into the area, which is hard to supply because it is across a major river. Then the Ukrainian military pulls a whoopsy doodly doo and hits the Russians in the depleted Northern sector. Meanwhile they've got Russia still pouring troops into an area that they can effortlessly interdict.
It is the play action pass of warfare, we show you this, we show you this, and when you bite on that hook we give you this instead.
Agree 100% good post. Another unsung part of it was the Ukrainians holding of constant Russian attacks in the Dontesk region especially near Bakhmut area keeping the Russians from breaking out and making them BLeed a crazy amount for every inch they advanced.
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Absurdistan
I think my cousin went to school there.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:07 pm to joemuggs
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Agree 100% good post. Another unsung part of it was the Ukrainians holding of constant Russian attacks in the Dontesk region especially near Bakhmut area keeping the Russians from breaking out and making them BLeed a crazy amount for every inch they advanced.
An excellent point.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:07 pm to joemuggs
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Saw some reports yesterday that someone stole lots of Russias winter uniforms ... or that's the story they're going with.
Most likely some oligarch signed the contract, took the money, and never made the uniforms.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:07 pm to joemuggs
The real damage was inflicted over the six-week period when Russia was pushing so hard to take Severodonetsk and Lysychans'k. Russia spent a lot of its best troops and combat power in that fight.
Ukraine wanted to hold them for 2 weeks and managed to hold them back for 6 weeks, then executed an orderly retreat to the next line of defenses.
Ukraine wanted to hold them for 2 weeks and managed to hold them back for 6 weeks, then executed an orderly retreat to the next line of defenses.
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:07 pm to Chromdome35
Excerpt from Hoover institute regarding energy crisis. Going to be a cold winter in Europe.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:08 pm to GOP_Tiger
Elon tweets again.
Dude see this conflict as a math problem.
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Russia is doing partial mobilization. They go to full war mobilization if Crimea is at risk. Death on both sides will be devastating. Russia has >3 times population of Ukraine, so victory for Ukraine is unlikely in total war. If you care about the people of Ukraine, seek peace.
Dude see this conflict as a math problem.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:11 pm to SlimTigerSlap
Short of using nukes, how does Russia stop Ukraine at this point? The Russian military is in shambles from top to bottom. Russia needs a 10-year ceasefire to rebuild its army.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:11 pm to SlimTigerSlap
He's using the wrong numbers.
According to his logic, the US and Taiwan have no choice but to submit to China. After all, China's population is many times that of the US and Taiwan.
According to his logic, the US and Taiwan have no choice but to submit to China. After all, China's population is many times that of the US and Taiwan.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:12 pm to GOP_Tiger
There are as many warhawks ITT as there were conspiracy theorists in the Q thread
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:14 pm to Chromdome35
Hang on through the winter and count on the west's short attention span.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:21 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Musk's plan will save lives.
Warhawks in this thread will be bummed they won't be able to live vicariously through Ukraine.
Hey Ukraine, I know that Russia has come in and killed 10's of thousands of your people, turned many of your cities to rubble and caused 10's of billions in damage to your economy, but hear me out... Let's hold a referendum in four regions of your sovereign country that were invaded to see if they can secede to join Russia. Oh, one last thing, Russia gets to keep Crimea. Deal?
GTFO with that nonsense. You know what would really bring about peace? Russia leaving Ukraine all together.
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:21 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Musk's plan will save lives.
Warhawks in this thread will be bummed they won't be able to live vicariously through Ukraine.
In addition to all the other problems with it the plan is impossible to implement how could you get a fair vote in any of these regions while they are under occupation and with half or sometimes up 75% of the population having fled the war??? its a total fantasy full of Russian propaganda and lies about Crimea.
It's funny that you refer to others as warhawks when that plan would virtually assure further aggression by Russia. Now is the time to set a frame work for long term future peace and we have the ability to do it without sheading American blood. To back down would be catastrophic. Not just here but understand China is watching, Iran is watching, North Korea is watching.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:24 pm to Jim Rockford
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Most likely some oligarch signed the contract, took the money, and never made the uniforms.
Yep unfortunately for Russia hookers and Mediterranean villas aren't great at keeping your troops warm in the winter.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:25 pm to GOP_Tiger
Or India would wipe US off the map. After all, look at the population advantage.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:26 pm to joemuggs
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hookers aren't great at keeping your troops warm in the winter.
I bet just about every Russian soldier wouldn't mind a Russian hooker in his foxhole for warmth.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:28 pm to Chromdome35
If I am not mistaken, HIMARS is on its way out as too expensive and ways to do the same with other lower cost. The same happened to the F-14 Tomcat. It was phased out because much more expensive than the Hornet
Posted on 10/3/22 at 2:31 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Ukraine remains neutral.
So because Putin is blackmailing the world with the potential use of nuclear weapons, a country must surrender its sovereign right to join NATO if it desires?
At some point, there has to be a limiting factor in how we allow the threat of nuclear weapons to scare us.
If Putin wanted Alaska back, are we just going to give in to him because “oh, no, he could use nukes!”?
Edit: Seriously, is there a way to phrase the peace condition of “Ukraine remains neutral” (i.e. “Ukraine must never join NATO” because that’s what we all know Russia means) as anything other than Ukraine surrendering partial sovereignty over to Russia?
You could almost get me to get behind a redo of the independence referendums under combined UN/Ukraine/Russia oversight, but I would tell Putin to stick the “Ukraine remains neutral” stipulation up his arse.
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 2:41 pm
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