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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:00 pm to
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in the Nikolaev area, a platoon of MLRS HIMARS was hit;


I'm hoping this is translation thing but what the heck is a platoon of HIMARS? We only sent 12
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:02 pm to
ISW Update

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Russian President Vladimir Putin did not threaten an immediate nuclear attack to halt the Ukrainian counteroffensives into Russian-occupied Ukraine during his speech announcing Russia’s illegal annexation of Ukrainian territory


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Russian President Vladimir Putin announced the illegal Russian annexation of four Ukrainian territories on September 30 without clearly defining the borders of those claimed territories.


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Putin announced that Russia’s usual autumn conscription cycle will start a month late on November 1, likely because Russia’s partial mobilization of Russian men is taxing the bureaucracy of the Russian military commissariats that would usually oversee the semi-annual conscription cycle.


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Russian officials could re-mobilize last year’s conscripts when their terms expire on October 1.


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Putin invited some Russian milbloggers and war correspondents who have previously criticized the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) for a lack of transparency about Russian progress in Ukraine to attend his annexation speech in Moscow.


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Key Takeaways

Russian President Vladimir Putin announced the illegal Russian annexation of four Ukrainian territories on September 30 without clearly defining the borders of those claimed territories.

Putin announced that Russia’s usual autumn conscription cycle will start a month late on November 1, likely because Russia’s partial mobilization of Russian men is taxing the bureaucracy of the Russian military commissariats that would usually oversee the semi-annual conscription cycle.

Russian officials could re-mobilize last year’s conscripts when their terms expire on October 1.

Ukrainian forces will likely capture or encircle Lyman within the next 72 hours.

Ukrainian military officials maintained operational silence regarding Ukrainian ground maneuvers in Kherson Oblast but stated that Ukrainian forces continued to force Russian troops into defending their positions.

Russian troops continued ground assaults in Donetsk Oblast.

Russian authorities continued efforts to coerce Russian participation in mobilization efforts, but will likely struggle to coerce participation as Russians continue to flee Russia for border states who welcome them.

Russian officials are accepting bribes and engaging in other preferential treatment to prevent or ease the economic burden of mobilization on the wealthy.

Russian authorities are continuing to deploy mobilized personnel to Ukraine without adequate training or equipment, and personnel are unlikely to be able to afford to provide their own supplies.

Russian forces conducted a missile strike on a Ukrainian humanitarian convoy and attempted to blame the Ukrainian government.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46485 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:03 pm to
How very odd. He never answered my question.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:05 pm to
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Some people still think they dont actually control the land


You do realize they DONT control all the land they supposedly annexed.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46485 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:09 pm to
I'm just waiting for someone to confirm that if you have an ethnic majority in a land, you therefor have a legal justification for annexing that land in the name of your country.

Because if that's the case, that opens all kinds of fun conversations in certain parts of the south and west part of these United States.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21029 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:13 pm to
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Because if that's the case, that opens all kinds of fun conversations in certain parts of the south and west part of these United States.


No, it doesn't. The only people who want to do that are people trying to create false moral equivalencies to justify evil.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:17 pm to
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I'm just waiting for someone to confirm that if you have an ethnic majority in a land, you therefor have a legal justification for annexing that land in the name of your country.

Because if that's the case, that opens all kinds of fun conversations in certain parts of the south and west part of these United States.


Hell, as of right now, the Northern Irish Assembly is majority re-unification with the Republic of Ireland. Now, the UK parliament may very well grant independence to Northern Ireland should a referendum ever pass, but it would be preposterous to think an Irish invasion and annexation of Northern Ireland would not be seen as illegal.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46485 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:23 pm to
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No, it doesn't


Oh but it does. If your argument is that Russia is justified in annexing the Donbas due to it being majority Russian ethnics, then Mexico is most certainly justified in annexing southern Cal, Arizona, New Mexico, and western and southern Texas.

Either you believe majority ethnicity determines sovereignty, or you do not.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45712 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:29 pm to
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Sure you were, liar.


I was.

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how noble of you.


Thank you

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At ease, soldier.



I'm an officer.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21029 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:38 pm to
I think that I misunderstood your original point.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45712 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:41 pm to
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territories that Russia wanted to annex which are almost only inhabited by people that identify as Russian now



You obviously have not been paying attention. The people in eastern Ukraine did not identify as Russian before the invasion, and they do no identify as Russian now. If the people of eastern Ukraine identified as Russian then why did Russia have to send troops door to door to make people vote?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46485 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:42 pm to
There are certain folks in this thread that think that Russia is justified in invading the Donbas because it has been inundated with Russian immigrants in the past ten years or so. Therefore, it only follows that a majority ethnic population justified intervention by the nation state that represents that ethnicity. So, following our friends logic, the United States should give up all claims to southern california, New Mexico, Arizona, and certain parts of western and southern texas.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46485 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:42 pm to
Because as we've learned, ethnicity equals sovereignty.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:10 pm to
I didn’t realize how diminutive this old man was until this “annexation” ceremony. He’s like a little Napoleon.

Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8660 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:37 pm to
He’s an ex little KGB shite with a huge short man complex. The world would be so much better if he stopped breathing tonight.
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:49 pm to
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Because as we've learned, ethnicity equals sovereignty.



Look at a map from 40 years ago and look at one now

Focus on Europe , half of Africa, and East Asia.

Yea. Ethnicity equals soverignty.

Otherwise war.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 10:50 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:53 pm to
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Yea. Ethnicity equals soverignty. Otherwise war.


You heard it, Ireland. Caraway just gave you permission to annex the northern counties under Royal occupation.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11191 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:54 pm to
You’re kind of a wacko brother bear.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16114 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:18 pm to
The ethnic Russians are welcoming the Ukrainian liberators. Now go play with the other Politards
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16114 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:22 pm to
So South Central Louisiana has been part of France all this time? Who knew that they would consider themselves Americans?

Dayum, there were a lots of volunteers from the Texas Hill Country who fought their asses off against the Germans and they were all ethnic German even spoke German and had German newspapers

Your theory, and that is all it is, has been shot down in flames
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 11:52 pm
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