re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

The old saw, "Amateurs talk strategy, pros talk logistics"

You are the American equivalent to that Russian Ivan that posts on here.

Two peas in a pod.

Russia currently has a vulnerable logistics tail in the south.

ETA: It's almost like they didn't model the introduction of Western munitions, intelligence, targeting, etc.

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Greed and graft. The thieves and traitors are inside the US government. Ukraine is an ATM and a vassal state for these rent-seeking shitbags.

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So looking at this article I found this a little humerous:

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Now, this week there's been yet more bombshell smoking gun confirmation to emerge on the role of powerful Western countries in thwarting the potential for ceasefire between Russian and Ukrainian forces...

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References this tweet:

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Ex US National Security Council official confirms citing "multiple former senior U.S. officials" that Russia & Ukraine agreed in April on peace deal framework of #Russia withdrawing to pre-war positions & #Ukraine promising not to seek #NATO membership. Deal was stopped by UK PM.

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Which is referencing this tweet:
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Was alerted to this new Foreign Affairs piece by
@alexjordanATL
, where Fiona Hill accidentally lets slip a key fact: Russia & Ukraine agreed to a tentative settlement in April that would've halted the war, Course, Hill doesn't mention UK PM flew to Kiev instantly to scuttle it.

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The final sentence is this: "But as Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stated in a July interview with his country’s state media, this compromise is no longer an option."

So your source's source's source acknowledges that the source material makes no claim of this, but they claim it happened anyway and then 2 people say "SEE LOOK WHAT THE WEST DID!!!!" and then you post a link to the article on tigerdroppings as proof that that the West did this.


*not saying that Boris couldn't have done this, but the article literally disproves itself as hyperbole without actual backup

Ukraine lacks logistics in the form or 18 wheelers to get supplies to the front as well. It is having to rely on the equivalent to the Paris Taxi Cab rescue of Paris during WWI

I've been onto Zero Hedge for years. It's nothing more than some real hard facts mixed with a little Russian misinformation via a Bulgarian based site. It always has enough right of truth for the uninformed to take the bait and swallow the hook.

Tyler Durden byline to grab the attention of younger adult males.

Al Jazeera

Tidy write up on the current Ukrainian counter offensive. Who knows about the veracity of the various sources quoted, but this makes sense to me:

“The villages along the front line – these the Ukrainians broke easily. In the second line of defence there was blood spilled. I heard 1,000 Ukrainians and 1,500 Russians [were killed],” said Pantelis Boubouras, Greece’s honourary consul in Kherson, who runs a construction business in Odesa.

“The second line isn’t falling easily. There are 25,000-30,000 soldiers, they’ve been there five months, and are very well equipped and dug in,” Boubouras told Al Jazeera.“

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Russia doesn’t need Kiev, it’s a liability.

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Directly counter to your own posts 5-6 months ago.

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gaining combat experience against top western weaponry

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I guess if that’s what you want to call discovering their own weaponry is decades behind what they’re facing as it’s blowing up their own outdated weaponry.

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and has a dominant negotiating position with the EU.

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For starters they won’t be negotiating with the EU on this conflict. Besides that, I wouldn’t call negotiating at a time they’re actively losing ground and having to move high value assets from territory they’ve held for 8 years a position of strength. American, British, central & Eastern European assistance is not stopping, but Russia is eroding their fighting capabilities daily.

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No a month ago I was in Kharkiv treating innocent civilians wounded by random Russian shelling. I have seen the war and the up close with my own eyes. I have seen the Ukrainian women who have been raped by Russian troops and I have heard their stories with my own ears. Most importantly I have experienced the Russian war crimes in person. I heard Russian soldiers talking on unsecure radios trying to hit a civilian aid station run by the international red cross. Luckily your equipment is terrible or your soldiers cannot aim. My Russian is not great but it was good enough to understand a Russian commander yelling "V grebanuyu bol'nitsu! Bol'nitsa! Bol'nitsa - eto bol'shaya palatka s krasnym krestom! Pochemu vy, shlyukhi, ne mozhete popast' v gigantskiy krasnyy krest?" at his troops over the unsecured radio. The only thing I have not done is find who pissed on my pants during the shelling.

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Something lately I have been meeting a lot of Americans who have been to Ukraine.
The fact that you write serious accusations. Can you provide a proof for at least one charge and I will transfer it to the military prosecutor's office and post all the stages of its consideration here on the forum?
Or your photos of being there in a hospital, city, etc.?

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Most of that is a load of horse shite and you know it. If Ukraine had the military power to strike Donetsk, Crimea, or Russia. Why did it not strike any of those targets in the past? The only thing that is true is that Putin and Hitler both invaded a neighboring nation.

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I don't understand what the hell are you talking about? Are you going to deny that Kyiv has been regularly and methodically shelling Donetsk for all 8 years?

I don’t specifically post it on photo hosting so that there is no dancing on the bones
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And this is a Ukrainian soldier. Translate what is written on the shells? "All the best for children"

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I hope the bastard is no longer among the living

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A government that was elected with over 70% of the vote in a free and fair election with international observers is not a pocket government. I realize that you are a Russian and Russians do not understand the concept of an election that is not already rigged to decide the winner.

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what 70% are you talking about? Take a look at wikipedia
Poroshenko "gained" 54.7% with a total voter turnout of 59.48%. Residents of Donbass and Crimea were not allowed to vote.
These elections were recognized by international observers of which countries? China or India were there? So how the votes are counted in the United States was very well illustrated by Biden's election. The whole world saw. On the Maidan it was similar.
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Sweden and Finland are now off limits to Russia. Now thanks to Finland joining NATO the USA can put THAADs or the Aegis Ashore system in northern Finland and intercept any ballistic missile launched from the arctic. Also the shipping lanes into and out of Murmansk are now within range of land based ASM in a NATO nation. Plus NATO now has two more countries to stage stealth fighters in. Since Russia has been unable to knock out the weak Ukrainian Air Force. What makes you think Russia could ever hope to defeat NATO air power?

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I would like to bet, I will reduce the time. The Baltics have been in NATO for many years. Which of the above is there?

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Turkey has been part of NATO since 1952. Just because Turkey bought 4 S400 launchers and wanted Finland and Sweden to extradite people who had been charge with crimes in Turkey does not mean that leaving NATO.

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What about Turkey's announcement of joining the SCO? Did you know about it?
The Sultan is not a fool, being in a bloc that has "brain death" (Macron said) and hoping to join the growing organization is preparing a "gift" as is customary in the east. Being in two military organizations will be uncomfortable for him, besides, he remembers well the failed coup d'état with Gülen, who lives in the United States and was preparing from the United States (consider all of NATO). So sleep peacefully under the lulling that long since 1952 ...
Everything happens for the first time

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Ukrainians are not Russians and do not want to be Russians. If they wanted to be Russians they would thrown down their arms and the special military operation would not still be going on.

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Instead of a thousand words. The IAEA arrived with an inspection at the nuclear power plant that Ukraine is shelling out of 777 and along the way it meets a huge queue of people who want to get into the territory where there is no Kyiv power
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And the Ministry of Defense expresses its gratitude for the reports from the citizens of Ukraine about the location of military targets

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The Ukrainian people have not been oppressed for the last 8 years. The Ukrainian people are not the ones being feed lies. Russia is the nation that is lying. Russians like yourself are the ones who are living in an alternate reality because of propaganda. I am sorry to tell you but your nation is the nation full of fascists and war criminals. As I have said above. I have seen those war crimes with my own eyes. Heard the orders being given to commit them with my own ears. Felt the ground shake from the shells landing around a field hospital that was clearly marked with a red cross indicating it was a nonmilitary target. Held and tried to comfort terrified children in my own arms.

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And here you are lying. How many Russian schools are left after Maidan? How many% were expelled from work because they spoke Russian, how many people were denied the issuance of an earned pension on the grounds that they were Russian?
Have you noticed that your rather big post with accusations does not contain a single proof? I hope you provide them.

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I hope that he is lucky enough to not get wounded or killed. If he is unlucky and does get wounded then I hope he does not end up in a field hospital that his fellow Russian soldiers are intentionally hit with artillery. Also I hope he is careful about where he throws his cigarette after he has finished smoking it. There have been a lot of incidents caused by Russians who were too casual with their cigarettes.

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I already asked about the proofs above

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what 70% are you talking about? Take a look at wikipedia

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Lol. To play devil's advocate, Wikipedia to a Russian is probably as credible as a leading STEM journal to us.