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Posted on 8/10/22 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 4:28 pm to
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Wonder what the weapon was?


Curious as well.

It seems they targeted the buildings which I assume they thought had munitions in them, based on the explosions I would say they were right.

Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 4:35 pm to
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Wonder what the weapon was?


A pack of unfiltered cigarettes.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 4:40 pm to
Why are you against Keystone XL and tight shale oil/gas from hydraulic fracturing? Putin was behind all the politics to get that banned.
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 4:44 pm to
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A pack of unfiltered cigarettes.


Turkey sabotaging the Orcs’ cigs.

Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 4:51 pm to
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Why are you against Keystone XL and tight shale oil/gas from hydraulic fracturing? Putin was behind all the politics to get that banned.

The non-construction of the XL link didn't have much of an effect, and efforts to reduce shale drilling in the US on a governmental level have not really been effective. The shale production in the US shut in during the coordinated Russia-OPEC price cuts, followed by the Covid slowdown.

Some political posters who pine for the low oil price of 2019-2020 don't realize that that coordinated price war was extremely harmful to domestic production.

However, to your point, the move to ban shale production in Europe, that was absolutely a Russia production, was successful. Europe is perhaps just now realizing the risks of its having been manipulated on that issue.

Shale production in the US will be back at full steam when lending rebounds.

I know your comments weren't directed at me, but this is one area where Russian propaganda hasn't been as effective here as it was in Europe.
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 5:13 pm to
It definitely was for getting Canadian heavy crude down here. We are drilling like crazy for tight shale in the Permian but it is too light to refine as is without first blending with heavy, so it will be exported

My point that the Putin fan boys are also anti oil/gas in the North America
Posted by LSUPilot07
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:07 pm to
I count 13 aircraft completely destroyed with another 2 SU-24 quite possibly being write-offs as they were very close to the blasts and no doubt endured tremendous heat or fire damage. That along with a munitions hut being obliterated is a damn good day’s work.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:20 pm to
FWiW, Russia made somewhere between $7 to 20 per barrel of oil sold today, after deduction lifting cost and discounts to attract buyers
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:01 pm to
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My point that the Putin fan boys are also anti oil/gas in the North America

It’s a valid point. In many cases environmentalists are manipulated and funded through Russia front organizations. It’s a good investment for the Russians. The many facets to Russian propaganda aimed at America is impressive.
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:15 pm to
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My point that the Putin fan boys are also anti oil/gas in the North America

It’s a valid point. In many cases environmentalists are manipulated and funded through Russia front organizations. It’s a good investment for the Russians. The many facets to Russian propaganda aimed at America is impressive.




The Russian network of today is nothing like the network organizations the KGB had to do their bidding before the fall of the USSR. They had infiltrated everything from the civil rights groups to the environmental groups. The vast majority of the people in those groups were still alive and happy to have new life and revenue pumped into their cause(s) once Russia got back on its feet with a KGB leader at its head. I don't like Romney at all but the SOB saw it, and had the guts to call out Russia when everyone else in politics at the time (Trump was not in politics at the same so please do not be offended Trump supporters) still had their heads in the sands of the Middle East and North Africa.
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:22 pm to
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However, to your point, the move to ban shale production in Europe, that was absolutely a Russia production, was successful. Europe is perhaps just now realizing the risks of its having been manipulated on that issue.



Shite it was not just shale. Do not forget nuclear. The European anti-nuclear movement really took off when communist and communist leaning parties partnered with environmental groups after the fall of the USSR. These Red-Green alliances came to power all throughout Europe in the 1990s and 2000s.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:25 pm to
LA State Sen. Jesse Knowles from SW LA had an investigation which exposed that many if not most of the "Freedom Riders" who came South to Louisiana were actually more about setting up communist cells in minority communities than for Civil Rights. Sen. Knowles was a Bataan Death March survivor and without a racist bone in his body.
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 7:37 pm
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:42 pm to
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LA State Sen. Jesse Knowles from SW LA had an investigation which exposed that many if not most of the "Freedom Riders" who came South to Louisiana were actually more about setting up communist cells in minority communities than for Civil Rights.

That may be a step too far. Advocating for full voting and economic rights doesn’t result in a new market for anything that Russia is selling. And if the freedom riders were trying to establish communism, they were bad at their jobs.

There were likely a lot of idealistic communists among them, but they were not spreading communism when they were registering citizens to vote.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:46 pm to
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LA State Sen. Jesse Knowles from SW LA had an investigation which exposed that many if not most of the "Freedom Riders" who came South were actually more about setting up communist cells in minority communitiesthan for Civil Rights.


Well they succeeded. Famous African communists like Neto, Mugabe, etc would feel at home in intercity Louisiana.
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:56 pm to
Back to war news, Malcontent News daily roundup:

Northeast Donetsk
Russian forces launched an assault on the settlement of Spirne, west of the T-1302 Highway, which was unsuccessful.

Bakhmut
Russian forces made reconnaissance attempts on Ukrainian positions near Pidhorodne and retreated after coming under fire.

Russian proxy forces, led by Private Military Company (PMC) Wagner Group and supported by the Imperial Legion of Russia and Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) separatists, continued fighting on the eastern edge of Soledar. On August 9, a video from Russian state media showed that the Wagner Group was 2 kilometers east of the gypsum factory.

PMC Wagner also attempted to advance toward Yakolivka and Bakhmut but could not improve their positions.

Additionally, PMC Wagner, with support from LNR separatists with the 2nd Army Corps, established positions within Vershyna. Fighting for control of the settlement continued.

The situation in the Svitlodarsk bulge is unchanged, with Russian proxy forces and Ukrainian troops fighting in Kodema and for control of Zaitseve.

Southwest Donetsk – Zaporizhia
The 1st Army Corps of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) renewed offensives on Avdiivka and Pisky. Separatists attempted to advance on Avdiivka from Mineralne and Spartak and were unsuccessful. Videos released today by Russian state media showed the situation in Pisky remains unchanged, with the DNR controlling the southern third, Ukraine the northern third, and the center contested.

Separatist forces with the DNR also attempted to advance on Marinka and were unsuccessful.

Leaders of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic reported that Ukrainian forces in Donetsk shelled a brewery. The compound was a total loss due to a fire, and a mandatory evacuation area was established due to an ammonia leak at the plant.

The Ukrainian air force attacked the Russian command post for the 217th Guards Airborne Regiment in Maksyma Horkoho, 100 kilometers into Russian-occupied territory.

Two explosions rocked the coastal town of Kyrylivka, 55 kilometers south of Melitopol on the shores of the Azov Sea. Local officials reported a large concentration of Russian troops, equipment, and ammunition outside the settlement.

Kharkiv
Russian forces attempted to advance on the settlement of Udy, northwest of Kharkiv on the international border. They were unsuccessful.

Kherson
Ukraine used precision munitions to strike the Kakhovsky Bridge in Nova Kakhovka that crosses the Dnipro River. Video from Russian state media showed moderate damage. The bridge crosses the spillway of the Kakhovka Dam and hydroelectric plant and has been reduced to one lane.

Satellite pictures showed that the bridge in Darivka has reopened but is reduced to a single lane.

Operational Command South of the Armed Forces of Ukraine claimed responsibility for the attack that destroyed the Russian ammunition depot in Novooleksiivka on August 8. The depot was 35 kilometers northeast of Russian-occupied Crimea and 150 kilometers from Ukrainian-held territory.

Izyum
Northwest of Izyum, Russian forces launched a renewed offensive on Husarivka. Fighting was ongoing. The settlements of Chepil and Zalyman were shelled.

A reconnaissance in force group of light infantry moving in the direction of Brazhhkivka was forced to retreat after suffering losses.

Dnipropetrovsk
The village of Marivka on the Dnipro River was struck by over 80 Grad rockets fired by MLRS, targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure overnight. Thirteen people were killed and another 11 injured – seven critically.

Sumy
Dmytro Zhivytsky, Sumy Regional Administrative and Military Governor, reported Seredyna-Buda, Esman, Bilopillia, Khotin, and Nova Sloboda were shelled and hit by mortars. There was another border skirmish in Seredyna-Buda, with Russian and Ukrainian border forces exchanging machine gun fire.

Chernihiv
In Chernihiv, the settlement of Senkivka was shelled by Russian forces over the international border.

Odesa-Black Sea
Satellite images from Planet Labs show that the Saky naval airbase in Russia-controlled Novofedorivka, Crimea, was severely damaged. The remains of at least 11 Su-30MS2 and Su-24 aircraft were visible in the pictures. The main ammunition bunker was completely destroyed. The taxiway and flight line were cratered in places, with evidence that fires scorched large areas of the base. Ukraine continues to deny it had any involvement, declaring the explosion happened due to “mismanagement” by the Russian Federation.

Social media videos showed empty beaches on the Black Sea and traffic jams that extended for dozens of kilometers as Russian vacationers rushed to leave the region. A state of emergency and a terrorism alert was declared in parts of Crimea through August 24.

There are unconfirmed reports that the Ukrainian air force hit Russian targets in Chongar, 160 kilometers into Russian-controlled airspace and a gateway to the Crimea Peninsula. Five hours after the first pictures emerged of smoke rising from Chongar, Leonid Slutsky, a deputy in the Russian State Duma, said, “The special military operation will continue; the point of no return has been passed.” The Kremlin had previously stated that attacks on Russia or the bridges that connect Crimea to the mainland were red lines in the conflict.

Daily Assessment
1. Influential Russian milbloggers confirmed our assessment that the offensive west of Donetsk is struggling to maintain intensity due to elements of the 1st Army Corps becoming combat ineffective.

2. Ukrainian military leaders claim they were able to destroy two Russian military targets over 100 kilometers behind the line of conflict in airstrikes, indicating that Russian air defenses have been compromised.

3. Video of Russian tactics south of Izyum show light infantry troops have been poorly trained and have low morale.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 8:00 pm to
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Video of Russian tactics south of Izyum show light infantry troops have been poorly trained and have low morale.



I would have low morale too if I to fight in a war while not getting paid and having to worry if my fellow countrymen would end up killing me with their cigarettes.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 8:02 pm to
Looks like a bad day for the Russian Air Force
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 8:06 pm to
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Leonid Slutsky, a deputy in the Russian State Duma, said, “The special military operation will continue; the point of no return has been passed.” The Kremlin had previously stated that attacks on Russia or the bridges that connect Crimea to the mainland were red lines in the conflict.


Cry me a bucket.

Next up should be the Kerch Strait Bridge.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 8:08 pm to
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Looks like a bad day for the Russian Air Force


Excellent. The anything that chips away at the advantage in the air that the Russians currently enjoy is good news.
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