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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:54 am to sta4ever
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:54 am to sta4ever
quote:Obviously not. We’ll arm what’s left of Ukraine to the teeth and the UN might send some sort of “peacekeeping force” to monitor the new border. It’ll be gangbusters for defense contractors.
And then everything will just go back to the way it was before right?
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Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Sounds pretty easy. How does that work? Is Russia left better off than before the invasion?
They'll take their advances in the South and East and eventually end the war.
quote:how do they just call it a day? Will it be considered a good day? Will Russia and Russians be better off than before the invasion?
I still believe Russia will take everything East of the Dnipre and call it a day.
You call that winning?
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 10:57 am
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
I'm not Ukrainian.
Harsh Truth Alert: Nobody in a position of power gives a shite about you.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:58 am to Lakeboy7
quote:
Nobody in a position of power gives a shite about you.
Shocking!
Your understanding is child like as that was never implied.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:59 am to WDE24
quote:
how do they just call it a day? Will it be considered a good day? Will Russia and Russians be better off than before the invasion? You call that winning?
Russia doesn’t look at this through same lens we do. That’s a mistake most people make. Regardless, it’s certainly not a win for Ukraine.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:00 am to GeauxxxTigers23
I’m talking about with Russia. You really think they’re just gonna call it a day, after taking the eastern and southern regions of Ukraine? That their economy will be booming because of this “win”, that the Russian people will be happy that Russia “won”? Russia fricked up so much by simply deciding to invade Ukraine.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:01 am to RogerTheShrubber
So to recap Ukraine has lost land. Lost half it's troops and the majority of it's top commanders and don't forget they have lost an estimated 70% of the weapons sent to them
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:01 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Regardless, it’s certainly not a win for Ukraine.
They lose millions of people, gain billions of dollars...
In the long run, it may be. I think Zelensky is as much a fundraiser as anything else. We've already sent them a third of their annual GDP.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:02 am to sta4ever
quote:
You really think they’re just gonna call it a day, after taking the eastern and southern regions of Ukraine?
Yeah because I don’t think they’ll really have the ability to do anything else.
quote:I mean probably not but it’s not like their economy has ever been “booming.” They’ll have quite a bit more natural resources at least.
That their economy will be booming because of this “win”, that the Russian people will be happy that Russia “won”?
quote:Okay, kind of irrelevant now isn’t it?
Russia fricked up so much by simply deciding to invade Ukraine.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:03 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:so you are going to dodge the question with this vague bullshite?
Russia doesn’t look at this through same lens we do. That’s a mistake most people make.
quote:It’s hard to really define, but in calculating whether Ukraine claims any victory at the end of this conflict the foremost consideration must be that it was without choice in entering the conflict and its extermination as an independent sovereign was the goal.
Regardless, it’s certainly not a win for Ukraine.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:05 am to WDE24
quote:
its extermination as an independent sovereign was the goal.
That has never been a stated goal. I don’t know where that idea even comes from.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:06 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
I don’t know where that idea even comes from.
Same place as the rest of the war myths, I imagine.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:12 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Did Putin not compare himself to Czar Peter returning land to it’s rightful owner and say it was now his/Russias responsibility to do the same?
Did Putin not say the sovereignty of Ukraine was only possible in partnership with Russia and state that Ukrainians were one with Russians?
Did Putin not say the sovereignty of Ukraine was only possible in partnership with Russia and state that Ukrainians were one with Russians?
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 11:13 am
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:15 am to WDE24
I’m sure Russia would have been fine with taking Kyiv and turning Ukraine into a proxy vassal state. That’s not the same as extinction. In any case it doesn’t really matter in regards to my prediction,
Which is that Russia takes the eastern half of Ukraine and stops.
Which is that Russia takes the eastern half of Ukraine and stops.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
We've already sent them a third of their annual GDP.
Show your work.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:18 am to GeauxxxTigers23
They’re not going to stop. What do you think his reasons for invading Ukraine were?
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:19 am to sta4ever
Putin was bored
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:21 am to sta4ever
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This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:26 am to OMLandshark
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This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:27 am to Obtuse1
quote:
Show your work.
Ukranian GDP runs from 130B to 200B (last year) and we've given about 55 billion in aid.
Which is more than we spent in the first 5 years of Afghanistan.
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