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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:12 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:12 am to
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Did you read my post?


Yes, and I don’t disagree with you at all. I think Amnesty Int and the NYT are being unrealistic.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:26 am to
Russian separatists have been using the same tactics since 2014 and Russian propaganda has used the collateral damage to foment hate for the "Nazi-s". It's time we give Ukraine the firepower they need to push Russia back to their pre-2014 borders.

A defeat will allow the Russians to remove the Putin kleptocracy and start to reform their government.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 10:44 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16157 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:57 am to
Schools with no one in them. Sure, they have used schools as barracks from almost the beginning.

How many school children are going to school in Ukraine?

Give me a fricking break, this is 100% stupidity to make this an issue.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:03 am to

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Give me a fricking break, this is 100% stupidity to make this an issue.


I didn’t make it an issue. Amnesty International did. Along with the fake propaganda that virtually every Ukrainian civilian casualty(which are the only casualties reported by Ukraine, Ukrainian military casualties dwarf civilian casualties by orders of magnitude FYI) is an intentional
murder and war crime by the Russians. The fact is that most are just unfortunate casualties of the war. Wrong place, wrong time.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16157 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:06 am to
Amnesty International very often beclowns itself. This is not an exception to the rule. Same with NY Slimes
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42779 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:08 am to
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The fact is that they are casualties of the war.


And all because of Russian imperialism.

Was it our fault French civilians died at Normandy? No.
Ukraine is fighting for their very existence as a nation.
The NYT and AI are FOS.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:15 am to
The point is that the idea that the Russian army is systematically murdering and raping the Ukrainian population is ridiculous and that Ukraine is putting at least as much if not more propaganda than Russia is. That’s why I simply laugh when people post updates from the Ukrainian MoD. It’s 100% bullshite and people that believe are every bit as gullible as people who believe the Russian propaganda.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:33 am to
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This is a NY Times report based on Amnesty International’s findings so take it FWIW.


FWIW this is the LINK to the actual report

And this is their summary

quote:

Ukraine: Ukrainian fighting tactics endanger civilians

Military bases set up in residential areas including schools and hospitals

Attacks launched from populated civilian areas

Such violations in no way justify Russia’s indiscriminate attacks, which have killed and injured countless civilians
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:34 am to
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This doesn’t explain the Russian tactic of using artillery and tanks to completely level every building in towns just because they can


I mean, that’s exactly what it does



Per their own report it doesn't.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16157 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:02 am to
In cities which are all but evacuated. As far are Russian targets, they are in cities which are populated, such as Kyiv, Lviv, Odessa, etc. with cruise and ballistic missiles which Russia knows are not very accurate
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5753 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:15 am to
Toretsk , yesterday

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:32 am to
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As far are Russian targets, they are in cities which are populated, such as Kyiv, Lviv, Odessa, etc. with cruise and ballistic missiles which Russia knows are not very accurate


So are they intentionally targeting orphanages and hospitals or just missing?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16157 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:39 am to
Russia doesn't give a crap what it hits. It has demonstrated this repeatedly over the last 20+ years. It is about terrorizing the populace into submission.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61749 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:43 am to
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Besides, all this would stop if Russia would position its military in its own country.


Yeah this is hard for some of the tards to admit
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:43 am to
Okay. So they’re hitting civilian targets with great accuracy or missing military targets and don’t really give a shite if they accidentally kill civilians?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16157 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:59 am to
Give it up. Russia doesn't care what it hits. Now go play in the street
Posted by SwampGar
Texas
Member since Jan 2020
1486 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:15 am to
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I am right with the Lord that's the whole point. The non believers are living in fear and lash out at anyone who goes against the grain. Good luck to you.




what a turd muffin
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:24 am to
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Give it up. Russia doesn't care what it hits.
Apparently they care a lot more than the United States does about civilian casualties. We killed civilians at a much higher rate in Iraq. You’re a fool who allows his emotions to be controlled by blatant propaganda.

For perspective the United States killed between 5K and 7K in the initial invasion of Iraq which was about 3 weeks long.

According to the United Nations Ukrainian recorded civilian casualties were at 12,584 between Feb 24 and July 31. The highest numbers coming in March with about 3K deaths. It’s hovered around 1K per month since.

Even if we double the number of Ukrainian civilian deaths (24K) and extrapolate what Iraqi civilian casualties would have been assuming the US invasion lasted 5 months(30K deaths), the the evil Orcs are fighting a more civilized and humanitarian war than the United States did in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4654 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:25 am to
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But Amnesty International turned its sights on Ukraine on Thursday, releasing a report that accused Ukrainian forces of putting civilian lives at risk.
It seems this report was issued from Amnesty International's researchers at their Crises Response Department of the global office in London. They specifically ignored input and objections to the content of the report from Amnesty International's Ukraine office. AI is taking a lot of heat for trying to balance the thousands of war crimes of the Russians by these unfounded accusations against the Ukrainians.

The researchers may have a rough time on the London party circuit this weekend. Hopefully their A-level posh university degrees and unquestioned fashion sense save them from explaining themselves.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16157 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:37 am to
thank you for admitting you are a Putain apologist
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