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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:41 pm to
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Taiwan is a very different situation from Ukraine. Ukraine being invaded is a major annoyance for the world. If Taiwan is invaded, then societies collapse. You don’t understand how important that island is.


No, you are just emotional about both in two different directions. Seriously, you showcase the defense mechanism called splitting a lot. Do you have borderline?
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:42 pm to
Political posters are just rubbing the administration’s noses in it and showing them they can’t be forced to stay on correct board
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:43 pm to
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Didn't you suggest taking out the civilian government of Pakistan because you blame the entire country for harboring OBL? That might have been a few years ago though.


No I said cut off all funding and trade with them. I think I said that Obama should have said the following after Bin Laden’s assassination:

“And Pakistan, we should nuke you back into the Stone Age for harboring Bin Laden, but the good news for y’all is you’re basically already there. So instead we’re going to cut off all foreign aid and trade with y’all this day going forward. Have fun rebuilding after your next earthquake.”

And you do know there’s an alternate reality where Trump did it. I’d love to see that speech if he did it.

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Go to page 1184 and 1185 of this thread to see my answer and then your response.


Alright.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:44 pm to
Russia continues advances all throughout Donbas with Ukraine in full retreat.

Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:44 pm to
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Now’s a good time for an update from WeeWee.

Seems those two reports are timely given Russia finally breaking through in anything close to significant. WeeWee has consistently held the Ukrainians would regroup mid-end of summer to push the Russians back. Makes sense with updates we’ve seen on Russias use of conscripts and throwing everything at singular objectives unable to make progress on multiple fronts at once.
I agree . Would love to here more war updates info than unhinged posters with 4 or 5 consecutive posts.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:44 pm to
Any updates on Snake Island?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:45 pm to
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No I said cut off all funding and trade with them.


Nah this was a thread from a few years ago. It might have been during the India/Pakistan stuff recently.

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And you do know there’s an alternate reality where Trump did it. I’d love to see that speech if he did it.



Nah
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:46 pm to
Lysychansk is surrounded. Remember when Ukraine was “retreating there to better high ground defensive positions”?



Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109073 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:48 pm to
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No, you are just emotional about both in two different directions. Seriously, you showcase the defense mechanism called splitting a lot. Do you have borderline?


Dude, World War III is completely on the table when it comes to Taiwan. It’s not like Ukraine where there are tons of reasons that island is important. It quite frankly the most important island in the world, even over Britain, Java, and Honshu. It’s hard to understate it’s importance on the world stage. Ukraine is pennies compared to Taiwan’s Benjamins. It is the crown jewel and makes perfect sense why China is obsessed with taking it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:50 pm to
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Nah this was a thread from a few years ago. It might have been during the India/Pakistan stuff recently.


I’m relatively confident you’re misremembering it. I’ve said that paragraph a couple of times on here. I’ve also said that when Obama was once asked what keeps him up at night that he said “Pakistan.” Why Pakistan? Oh right because they’re a religious cult with nukes and crazy enough to use them if things go to shite. I despise Pakistan as a country.

Pakistanis and Americans fricking hate each other, and for good reason. They were the population that most got into tussles with Americans more than any other country by far when I was in Beijing. It got tense if a couple of Americans and a couple of Pakistanis were in the same bar in Beijing back in 2010-2012. The feeling was absolutely mutual between us.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 8:54 pm
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:54 pm to
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Absolutely not. Go frick yourself, you warmongering bootlicker


I didn’t start the war. On the other hand you’re about a post away from advocating us bombing Ukraine so the war can end quicker and Russia have all of it.

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Yeah and that needs to change, and it’s thanks to pussies like you they get away with it.


Weren’t you going to DC over the Afghanistan abortion of a pullout? You got picks from your trip to show them or you just a pussy too?

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Or just don’t vote a-holes into power.


Doesn’t matter who you vote for when the elections are rigged, and even if they aren’t the only people running are pos anyway, and even if they weren’t they would be such a minority it wouldn’t matter. We’re on the course we’re on and the only stopping it is collapse which will lead to a worse situation or the force of liberty which isn’t going to happen after this country took it in the arse with covid tyranny.

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Yeah, I’m going to need one hell of a link to justify this bull shite being true.


You need a link to tell you $56 billion in 2022 is far less than the sum of military spending through 45 years of the Cold War and that this embarrassment has done more to undo the fear of Russia than anything since?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:55 pm to
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It’s not like Ukraine where there are tons of reasons that island is important.


Like what?
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:56 pm to
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Yeah, that’s the clear silver lining in the Ukraine situation.


Well if you’re willing to spend more than $57 billion and zero American lives on China invading Taiwan you need to quit bitching about Ukraine as it’s a win in your mind for what you care most about.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:58 pm to
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I agree . Would love to here more war updates info than unhinged posters with 4 or 5 consecutive posts.




Paging WeeWee again. The original request has been buried behind probably 35 pages of bullshite
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:59 pm to
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Pakistanis and Americans fricking hate each other, and for good reason.


I didn't have that experience in Pakistan itself. Nor have I seen that in the hospital environment, where there are plenty of Pakistani doctors. I've been all over South Asia too.

I'd caution against using your own experience as the framework for geopolitics, because it generally isn't a reliable indicator of anything.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109073 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:00 pm to
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Like what?


A) The chips and semiconductors that are made there that no one has been able to emulate. That is the world’s new oil/gold.

B) It’s in the dead center of the world’s busiest trade route.

C) China is navally boxed in thanks to Taiwan and additionally Chinese coastlines make it nearly impossible to launch submarines. Taiwan’s east coast is great for that though and will open up the Pacific for them.

The country that controls Taiwan rules the world. Right now it’s us fortunately, but it is the Precious. China wants more than anything, and desperate for it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109073 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:05 pm to
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I didn’t start the war. On the other hand you’re about a post away from advocating us bombing Ukraine so the war can end quicker and Russia have all of it.


You haven’t thought through the alternative of a more fricked up supply chain and less crops to feed the world. This should be a major concern for everyone.

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Weren’t you going to DC over the Afghanistan abortion of a pullout? You got picks from your trip to show them or you just a pussy too?


I seriously thought about it, but couldn’t get the ball rolling and not enough people would have shown up.

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Doesn’t matter who you vote for when the elections are rigged, and even if they aren’t the only people running are pos anyway, and even if they weren’t they would be such a minority it wouldn’t matter. We’re on the course we’re on and the only stopping it is collapse which will lead to a worse situation or the force of liberty which isn’t going to happen after this country took it in the arse with covid tyranny.


Fair enough.

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You need a link to tell you $56 billion in 2022 is far less than the sum of military spending through 45 years of the Cold War and that this embarrassment has done more to undo the fear of Russia than anything since?


Ummm, you’re using 45 years as the bar against 4 months? Are you shitting me? No those are time tables that can’t be compared. What if this is going on in a year or two? What then? Keep sending them billions? Because I’m sure we’ll find quite a few more suitcases with 30 million dollars inside of it that we gave to them.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109073 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:07 pm to
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Well if you’re willing to spend more than $57 billion and zero American lives on China invading Taiwan you need to quit bitching about Ukraine as it’s a win in your mind for what you care most about.


Yeah, the good news is it’s not looking like my worst case scenario is going to play out in the very near future. The bad news is this isn’t worth a blank check to Ukraine which we have basically given them.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109073 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:10 pm to
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I didn't have that experience in Pakistan itself. Nor have I seen that in the hospital environment, where there are plenty of Pakistani doctors. I've been all over South Asia too.

I'd caution against using your own experience as the framework for geopolitics, because it generally isn't a reliable indicator of anything.


Keep in mind I was living there like a month after Bin Laden was killed and we all knew the government hid them. Tensions were high. Yeah Pakistan I agree that’s not likely to happen, but in Beijing where the cops don’t give one frick about foreigners fighting with one another and it was a no man’s land for both of us, yeah tensions rose quickly in that city.

Dated a chick over there that had some Pakistani friends, and she was clear on how much they hated Americans and wanted us to die. Different environment than now, and I doubt tensions would be as high today as they were back then.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:10 pm to
No one has been able emulate Pringles. America can make the best chips. We just choose to outsource
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