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re: LAPD swarm Marilyn Manson’s home

Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:41 am to
Posted by stout
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:41 am to
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i mean objectively it may have even been abusive, but how does the "abuser" understand consent? it gets REALLY grey, really fast


If it's even any of that at all. Could just be an aging actress trying to stay relevant. Could be a lot of things.

Why is Dita saying different? Why hasn't Rose McGowen complained about the same thing or confirmed?

I just have a hard time with adults that wait 20 years to make these allegations. At that point, I apologize if I am a bit skeptical.

Maybe I am wrong and there will be actual evidence that comes out but this whole "believe all women" is dangerous and persecuting MM based on his image and stage act is not acceptable.

This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 7:43 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:42 am to
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I just can’t get over the fact that these women got into sexual relationships with Marilyn fricking Manson of all people and are now pretending to be shocked that the “Antichrist Superstar” was into freaky arse BDSM/borderline abusive shite. We all know it was consensual and expected at the time and they’re coming out of the woodwork to get their victim points


fricking this.....this is no surprise.

Im surprised it took this long for shite like about him came out
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:47 am to
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LAPD swarm Marilyn Manson’s home


TMZ is reporting it was a welfare check...they were concerned for his well being.

frick that POS...let him rot in hell

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Marilyn Manson's home was swarming with cops after a worried friend called concerned for the singer's well-being... saying they'd been unable to get in touch with him for hours.
Posted by MJF69
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:47 am to
Put him in the pokey
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:48 am to
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Put him in the pokey



For what? Allegations with no evidence because he looks and acts different? Because that's what we have at this point.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9299 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:49 am to
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Maybe I am wrong and there will be actual evidence that comes out but this whole "believe all women" is dangerous and persecuting MM based on his image and stage act is not acceptable.


What about the whole “ don’t believe any woman because of other bogus accusations” because that’s what the majority of y’all do now
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6274 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:52 am to
Funny that you post this, I was just thinking about how brilliant he is and how well he can debate/speak on interviews. Anyone who doesn’t see his intelligence is stupid or has never heard him speak in a normal setting
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:55 am to
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Why is Dita saying different? Why hasn't Rose McGowen complained about the same thing or confirmed?


And isn’t Rose very, very vocal about Harvey Weinstein already? I feel like if MM was anything with blabbing about she would’ve done that already.
Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:56 am to
I love how the media completely glosses over the well known fact that Rose McGowan and Evan Rachel Wood are both unstable whack jobs.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25496 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:58 am to
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Im pretty sure cops dont use helos and a plethora of vehicles for welfare checks.

Sounds like he just got taken into custody for beating women.


Or the police are being used to put such imagery in the minds of the people to help paint him as such a criminal.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:00 am to
not sure what intelligence has to do with this. Isn't Bill Cosby considered intelligent?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:01 am to
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For what? Allegations with no evidence because he looks and acts different? Because that's what we have at this point.



im not saying arrest him and put him jail..because I dont see anything that points to him breaking the law.....I just think hes a piece of shite...especially if what these woman are saying is true..however what they are accusing him of isnt necessarily against the law and I'm sure it was all consensual.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:03 am to
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multiple sources report he has an IQ of 148. That's MENSA level genius.


He should sign up on TD and post on the Poli Board and Money Board
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175901 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:04 am to
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What about the whole “ don’t believe any woman because of other bogus accusations” because that’s what the majority of y’all do now


I already said I am skeptical of adults that wait 20 years to make claims. I also said if there is evidence besides just he said, she said 20 years later then so be it. I think that is fair and reasonable.

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175901 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:05 am to
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I just think hes a piece of shite...


That's not a crime fortunately for some of us
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175901 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:06 am to
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not sure what intelligence has to do with this.



It was a discussion the other day in the other thread. MM's image is just a crafted stage act like Madonna or Lady Gaga was the point.
Posted by Jordanreid2000
Tigerland, USA
Member since Aug 2008
1759 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:07 am to
And not dismissing ERW, but even Rose and Vita have not shared similar accounts with him. Rose seems like she would be FIRST in following ERW and I also believe she would've said something years ago whilst beginning metoo.
Look I am a fan of MM but not taking his side on this one. If he did anything against anyone's will, he should pay the price. In saying that, these women DO know they're dating/f'ing MarilynFREAKINGManson. What do they expect the relationship to be like?
If I were to date Kim K I would expect 3 things, horrible secks, the world to know about it, and herpes. So I would know what I am getting in to going in.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71842 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:09 am to
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It was a discussion the other day in the other thread


Gotcha

quote:

MM's image is just a crafted stage act


yeah, i'm no MM expert. Have no idea if he is guilty of what they are saying. Just pointing out that intelligence really doesn't matter.

but, i still say if you hang around with someone like that, some weird shite is going to go down.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:10 am to
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That's not a crime fortunately for some of us



oh I know...thats why I said I dont think he needs to be arrested....yet
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48709 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:11 am to
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What about the whole “ don’t believe any woman because of other bogus accusations” because that’s what the majority of y’all do now


I don’t believe anyone (male or female) without evidence. It’s naive to do so.
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