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re: La Nat Guard soldiers among those killed in helicopter crash. *PRAYERS*

Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:09 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:09 am to
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So you are telling me an A/C configured to hold 11 pax in the seats minus the 4 crew you also magically had 3 pax sitting on the floor unsecured? Yeah I'm sure. We have all kinds of experts here..


This was a MARSOC mission - they do all kinds of crazy stuff, hanging out the side of the helicopter - but I tend to agree, though, 4+14 sounds like no seats - or maybe just the back row of 4 left in. With 11 seated, belted passengers, that would be a tight, tight fit to squeeze 3 more unsecured and it would be nothing like safe.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:10 am to
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So you were responding to me when you said that initially, basically saying I or my friend want attention.


It seemed pretty obvious to me...
Posted by LSUTiger205
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Aug 2006
10820 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:12 am to
If you know anyone in a Blackhawk unit in Hammond, prayers to yall.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:17 am to
I'm done with this thread too many experts with zero Army Aviation knowledge it's amusing.

Again prayers to the families.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9315 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:26 am to
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I'm done with this thread


Peace out...

quote:

zero Army Aviation knowledge


(1) Says the guy that was proven wrong repeatedly
(2) An SH-60 and a UH-60, there aren't that many differences
Posted by unbeWEAVEable
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:30 am to
From the LAANG media advisory

quote:

NEW ORLEANS – Two UH-60 BlackHawk aircraft assigned to the Hammond, Louisiana Army National Guard were participating in a training exercise over night. One aircraft with four aircrew and seven Marines assigned to Camp LaJeune, North Carolina, was involved in an accident near Eglin range site A-17, east of the Navarre Bridge in Florida.

The helicopter was reported missing at about 8:30 p.m. last night. Debris from the aircraft was located by search and rescue team at about 2 a.m. this morning. Search and rescue efforts are underway at the accident site currently. The second helicopter and its personnel on board have returned and are accounted for at this time. The aircraft are assigned to the 1-244th Assault Helicopter Battalion in Hammond, Louisiana.

They were participating in a routine training mission involving the Marine Special Operations Regiment from Camp LeJeune. Names of the aircrew and Marines on board are being withheld pending NOK notification. The accident is under investigation.

Additional details will be provided as they become available. The crash is under investigation.
Posted by LSUTiger205
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Aug 2006
10820 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:36 am to
I have tons of Army aviation knowledge. Outside avionics, there isnt really a difference in a SH-60 vs UH-60. As a matter of fact, the difference in any -60 airframe whether is a MH-60S or a UH-60A is minimal.
Posted by MudEngineer318
The AP
Member since Jan 2013
657 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:32 am to
One of them was my personal friend. He was one of the pilots. Very sad day for me, my family and friends.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:38 am to
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quote: why are you putting supposed in quotes? he is saying that similar to any other tragedy there were will be a ton of people who were "suppose" to be on the bird but in fact were not and just want attention


I've met no less thank 250K people that were in tiger stadium for the 97' UF game
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58088 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:42 am to
Keep up the good work of being fcktards in this thread.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57230 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:43 am to
When are they going to release the names?
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:43 am to
quote:

One of them was my personal friend. He was one of the pilots. Very sad day for me, my family and friends.

Where was he from if you don't mind me asking?
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:46 am to
quote:

When are they going to release the names?

quote:

By 11:15 a.m., relatives of all four of those guardsmen had been notified, though their names won't be released publicly until the Coast Guard recovers their bodies or calls off the search, said Col. Pete Schneider, a Louisiana National Guard spokesman.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57230 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:47 am to
Thanks. I guess it's wait and see.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:47 am to
Very sad news.


I'm assuming no word on the cause yet?
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:48 am to
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Thanks. I guess it's wait and see.

I've been keeping an eye of facebook for updates regarding a few guys that I know. Nothing yet, so I'm guessing that's a good sign for them.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77550 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:49 am to
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I'm assuming no word on the cause yet?


I've heard repeatedly that fog was a big factor, so I guess you could assume the pilots lost their orientation. Although a few people have pointed out that the blackhawk is more than capable of functioning in these conditions.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:51 am to
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I've heard repeatedly that fog was a big factor, so I guess you could assume the pilots lost their orientation. Although a few people have pointed out that the blackhawk is more than capable of functioning in these conditions.



It's capable. But I personally think flying IFR in a helo is kinda pointless. Unless it's just land at an airport in the terminal phase low level IFR in helicopters is dangerous.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77550 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:53 am to
Fog is still crazy bad for the search.

Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9449 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:56 am to
There's no telling what happened. It apparently wasn't a mid-air collision with another aircraft, but aside from that, who knows?

Was it bayside or gulf side? I'm assuming gulf side...
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