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re: La. House to vote on recreational weed today. Updated with video link
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:35 am to jdd48
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:35 am to jdd48
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Because Louisiana is a state where signature driven voter referendum does not exist. Any ballot measures have to be raised/approved by the legislature.
So basically, our politicians say what we want to hear to get elected, and then do whatever they want?
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:35 am to The Melt
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Maybe they are justing using the "trust" and "support" they have acquired to lean on legislators. They know they have this bill by the balls and they are just using it as a bargaining chip. It's pretty common in legislative compromise/negotiating in my understanding.
whatever could they be bargaining? guess we'll never know, huh?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:36 am to Nawlens Gator
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Seizing assets from innocent people is a huge problem for me. After a conviction makes more sense. If you read the Hammond Star, you will notice that 30 - 50% of all Tangipahoa court cases are for drugs. Drug laws are a huge revenue stream for lawyers, judges, cops, prisons, counselors, etc. etc. who wouldn't be needed without these drug laws. It's big business.
There would still be arrest made such as DUI after smoking pot. Also, lawyers, counselors, cops, and judges should make there fair share off of Alcohol abuse, prescription drug abuse, heroin use. it’s all a bunch of bull shite. Also, who’s to say that if it is legalized that more and more people wouldn’t have problems which would give these people you mentioned more revenue?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:36 am to The Melt
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I'm totally for legalization and the police don't need to get any for all I care. They probably will get some but so will other agencies.
The funny thing is, this board watching too much TV and expounds on one or two stories then blow it up on this board. Barely anyone is getting arrested for weed anymore, very few asset forfeitures for weed, still waiting on the information on all of these fines that the judge orders that find there way back to the arresting agency, and nobody is serving jail or prison time for weed unless they are a multiple violence offender.
you keep saying that bullshite. in 2016 there are 15k arrest for possession and 1750 for sales. Even if they dont spend time in jail its still a huge money making racket for the SO.
If it wasnt a money maker than why are they fighting it? would seem to me they would be happy to have one less law to enforce.
also you just make 17k people felons who now are no longer eligible for federal student aide and will hurt most in future emplyment essentially sentencing them to a life of poverty over a fricking plant.
Not to mention that those in poverty are 3x more likely to be targetted and arrested for this.
If you are so sure nobody is going to jail over this, put a joint in plain view and speed through jennings and welsh and see if you dont go to jail
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:37 am to fatboydave
-legalize weed
-setup renewable bitcoin/crypto mining farms
louisiana has ~2 years to save itself. im not confident they are capable
-setup renewable bitcoin/crypto mining farms
louisiana has ~2 years to save itself. im not confident they are capable
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:38 am to FowlGuy
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You think the state makes “easy money” off of fines that judges put on felons that will never pay them?
I'm not sure what world these people live in that they 1. think a large portion of the judge's fines makes it back to the arresting agency and 2. the criminals actually abide by ANY conditions of their probation/sentence like paying fees and fines
. Probation officers can't even get them to pay the $65 probation fee that keeps the criminal out of prison! This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 11:39 am
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:38 am to glassman
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This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:39 am to rocket31
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louisiana has ~2 years to save itself. im not confident they are capable
Why?? They have a long track record of success, just look around the state...its fricking thriving with record low unemployment and huge companies begging to come here.
What would ever give you the impression they are not capable???
:rotflmao: like the idea BTW.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:40 am to Salmon
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whatever could they be bargaining? guess we'll never know, huh?
Maybe not but acting like they are losing millions from asset forfeiture and fines relative to pot is good stuff.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:43 am to The Melt
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. Barely anyone is getting arrested for weed anymore
While true, weed gives cops an opportunity to "contact" people and harass the hell out of them. They then dig for other things to bust you on.
Most traffic laws, drug laws, etc should disappear. Get rid of license plates, inspections etc. You need less cops and then mainly for property crime and violent crime.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 11:44 am
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:43 am to The Melt
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Maybe not but acting like they are losing millions from asset forfeiture and fines relative to pot is good stuff.
there are other reasons listed in this thread that you have convienietely ignored
you also ignored the link that proved your "no one is seizing small amounts" claim wrong
you have made lots of claims in this thread with zero proof, while simultaneously demanding proof of everyone else's claims
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:48 am to lsu777
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you keep saying that bullshite. in 2016 there are 15k arrest for possession and 1750 for sales. Even if they dont spend time in jail its still a huge money making racket for the SO.
If it wasnt a money maker than why are they fighting it? would seem to me they would be happy to have one less law to enforce.
also you just make 17k people felons who now are no longer eligible for federal student aide and will hurt most in future emplyment essentially sentencing them to a life of poverty over a fricking plant.
Not to mention that those in poverty are 3x more likely to be targetted and arrested for this.
If you are so sure nobody is going to jail over this, put a joint in plain view and speed through jennings and welsh and see if you dont go to jail
You do know a criminal summons counts as an arrest, right? Also, first and second weed possession are felonies? What?!?! You do know that you have to plead guilty or be convicted of a felony in order to be a convicted felon, right? Where are you getting 17k convicted felons for weed?
I still haven't been told the fine and fund names that the arresting agency is profiting from. You think you are an expert so please list them.
Think of the probably of the Jennings scenario.. You have to be pulled over for a traffic violation, have weed in your possession, be dumb enough to have the cops find it, the cop has to want to do the paperwork, the cop has to choose to do everything involved with taking you to jail instead of writing a ticket...
Maybe you missed it but I'm for legalization. In the senario you posted, it sucks but it is currently against the law so that's the risk you take. Now assuming departments are making a killing off that arrest, you still have yet to provide a proof.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:53 am to Gordon Hayward
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Can confirm this. Spent a day and a half in JPCC for a pipe. They charged me with possession too for the cashed bowl.
Are you sure this happened? The Melt assured us that it is not happening
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:53 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Do you think you have a right to money earned through illegal activity?
i think most people would be fine with CAF if the process started with a conviction
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:55 am to Salmon
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there are other reasons listed in this thread that you have convienietely ignored you also ignored the link that proved your "no one is seizing small amounts" claim wrong you have made lots of claims in this thread with zero proof, while simultaneously demanding proof of everyone else's claims
Well post them. I've asked you now twice. I've addressed the "police getting rich off fined" claims with zero proof. Fine info should be easy to show if their assertions are correct.
I'm going off my experiences and I bet I have much more experience than most of this board who were giving a ticket for weed when they were 18. Those stats on asset forfeiture are different from my experiences. They also are not relative to weed.. The entire topic of discussion.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:56 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Ok so y’all need to clarify your position because it’s more nuanced than you think.
What it sounds like y’all are saying is that you agree with asset forfeiture, just not the way it’s been executed right now.
they're talking about the actual system of CAF that exists now. why would they be talking about hypothetical systems that don't exist?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:58 am to rocket31
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louisiana has ~2 years to save itself. im not confident they are capable
thank you for finally coming around
Posted on 5/10/21 at 12:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
So what time do they actually vote?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 12:04 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Are you sure this happened? The Melt assured us that it is not happening
It's equivalent to white people committing violent acts on Asians. Yes, it may happen but it's not perverse and as widespread as this boards wants to make it out. Cops bya an large don't give a shite about weed most of the time. I bet we arent getting the whole story from the internet poster either.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 12:06 pm to fatboydave
Weed will be legalized before sports betting
Pathetic assbackwards state
Pathetic assbackwards state
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