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re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theory

Posted on 2/2/21 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 4:43 pm to
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and I just don't see any plausible way he committed suicide.


The only plausible explaination is suicide

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I think Courtney Love had him killed.


Hot take


If you had really been looking into this you’d know Kurt was a complete mess and had been for some time and not only did Courtney not kill him she did everything in her power up to and including slashing his tires so he couldn’t leave the intervention.

That literally everybody who was around Kurt towards the end of his life accepts the official explanation should tell you all you need to know. Yes she’s a wacko but she’s not a murderer
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10610 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 4:44 pm to
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Oh and Kurt was left handed so going through the right side is even more strange.


actually he was technically ambidextrous. but he used his right hand more often than his left (every pic of him signing autographs he’s using his right hand)
playing guitar felt better lefty when he was learning, so that’s what he played.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41633 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 4:48 pm to
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That literally everybody who was around Kurt towards the end of his life accepts the official explanation should tell you all you need to know.

Buzz Osborne from The Melvins knew Kurt since he was a teenager and basically brought him into the punk/grunge scene. He says the public perception that Kurt was constantly depressed and suicidal is wrong. He said Kurt was fairly happy and had a good sense of humor. Courtney is the one who made him miserable but apart from her he wasn't depressed like people think.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 4:57 pm to
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When he died, I absolutely f#*^%!ng hated the way the press made him out to be the symbol of my generation.


I felt this way about Prince.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88052 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 5:01 pm to
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Buzz Osborne from The Melvins knew Kurt since he was a teenager and basically brought him into the punk/grunge scene. He says the public perception that Kurt was constantly depressed and suicidal is wrong. He said Kurt was fairly happy and had a good sense of humor. Courtney is the one who made him miserable but apart from her he wasn't depressed like people think.



Yeah Kurt was happier when he wasn't addicted to heroin

The guy had a regular room at a local Seattle roach motel whered he go and shoot up for days at a time. If Courtney wanted him gone so bad she didn't need to do anything, he was well on his way out through his own actions.

I guess next you're going to tell me Courtney made him eat a handful of painkillers in Rome?
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 5:02 pm
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61601 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 5:12 pm to
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I guess next you're going to tell me Courtney made him eat a handful of painkillers in Rome?

It was Rohypnol. By that time, he had a deathwish. You knew it was only a matter of time.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14607 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 5:35 pm to
this is a fresh topic


Courtney love pushed him into killing himself. She was an abuser, and Kurt was right on the edge, she knew how much to push, but decided to push him even further one day and rest is history.

Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37664 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 5:43 pm to
Interesting update from some years back:

LINK

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(Updated) Detective Reviews Cobain Case, Which Remains Closed

Update 3/15/2016: The department is releasing five additional photographs of the firearm, taken on or about June 11, 2015. These photos were placed on the City’s computer system on March 3, 2016, and added to the investigative file shortly thereafter. They are now viewable in a gallery at the bottom of this post.

Update 7/24/2015: In response to numerous public disclosure requests for the newly-discovered images related to the Cobain case, the Seattle Police Department is releasing an additional 34 photographs taken at the scene. The photos can be viewed in the gallery at the bottom of this page.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37525 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 5:54 pm to
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Oh and Kurt was left handed
No he wasn't. He played guitar left handed but did almost everything else with his right.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23462 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 5:58 pm to
Didn’t he attempt suicide a few times with pills? He was a mess. Courtney was almost as big of a mess. You really think an addict like her could pull that off??? Seriously?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104355 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:04 pm to
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Cobain’s family and the City of Seattle are seeking to block a lawsuit, filed against the Seattle Police Department earlier this year, aimed at forcing the release of a handful of graphic crime scene photographs.

Members of Cobain’s family have provided statements to the court, citing the emotional and potential physical harm they may face if the previously unreleased images depicting the Nirvana singer’s body, are publicly released.

In one of the court declarations, Cobain’s daughter says she believes the release of the photographs may “encourage disturbed stalkers and fanatical threats,” like a man who previously broke into her home and waited three days for her to return, before telling her he was “meant to be with me because my father’s soul had entered my body.”
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37525 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:10 pm to
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LSUintheNW
Speaking of KC, I was in your town over the weekend.

Seems like 5 new weed shops have opened in the last year.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37664 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:23 pm to
4/8 - Cobain found dead.

4/7 - Love called police from a hotel in Beverly Hills at 9:27 am fearing she had overdosed. "She advised that she had tried the same heroin the previous evening, 4-6-94 without any reaction."

4/5 - Cobain presumed to have died.

"At Century City hospital C. Cobain was treated by Doctor Mitchell Schoen. He was unable to establish any signs that she was under the influence of any drug. He confirmed the allergic reaction in her arm was minor."

What? Have never heard of this before.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
3579 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:35 pm to
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And for some strange reason the Seattle PD destroyed that gun within days of the "suicide".


So, what are you implying? The Seattle PD are huge Courtney Love fans and are covering up for her?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58853 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:47 pm to
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And for some strange reason the Seattle PD destroyed that gun within days of the "suicide".


That just means it’s sitting in some detectives gun case and gets shown off to house guests after a few drinks
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
22885 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:47 pm to
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Suicide fit his MO / persona better than heroin OD. The shotgun was just a ploy.


What do these two sentences mean when put together?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:50 pm to
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disco put the nails in the coffin of rock and roll, rap/hip hop drove them in, grunge wasn't even a footnote
The early 90's to early 2000's might have been the greatest decade of rock music. And I'm not just talking about grunge either. I'm talking about the whole decade. So many great bands and concerts during that period.

Looking forward to the generation that decides to reproduce this. The current one sucks arse when it comes to writing music. It's mainly Nashville bro country and a bunch of bubble gum pop music.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37664 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 6:50 pm to
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That just means it’s sitting in some detectives gun case and gets shown off to house guests after a few drinks



It wasn't destroyed, please see link above.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10610 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 7:01 pm to
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The only plausible explaination is suicide


i wouldn’t say “only”

reading up on it, there was definitely enough questionable shite to allow for other possible outcomes.
i don’t think it’s enough to sway it away from being a probable suicide, but it is enough to at least be possible something else happened that day.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35418 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 7:42 pm to
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maybe for you or me.

Kurt was an established head.

Yeah the “three times the lethal dose” argument doesn’t really hold water. Opiate tolerance increases at an exponential rate. One man’s OD is another’s doctor-prescribed dosage.
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