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re: Kirans Podcast Maddison Brooks mom

Posted on 2/17/24 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 1:30 pm to
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Those guys are all going to be doing life in Angola.
0.0% chance of that. They didn’t kill her
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 1:32 pm to
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Another disgusting democrat


Lol. No.

If someone chooses to do drugs, then their actions will lead them down a bad path, potentially. If that person overdosed, then you would say he or she shouldn’t have done drugs because their actions put them in a more dangerous situation. Doesn’t mean the person deserves to overdose. Doesn’t mean the drug dealer isn’t at fault for adding fentanyl. But I believe in personal responsibility, which is far from a democrat.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 1:35 pm to
The ironic thing is if she wouldn’t have been hit by a car, there is a chance she was ok with the events of the night, or even excited about it. Or she would have gone straight to the cops because she was raped. But there is no way to know with her being deceased. And the tricky part is the defendants aren’t charged with the actual murder

Drunk sex vs taking advantage of someone who doesn’t actually want sex is one of the toughest situations to decipher and anyone who pretends it isn’t is foolish.

There is no legal law on what amount of alcohol means consent vs no consent. So without the victim testimony, this is a very hard case for the prosecution
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 1:42 pm to
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What if the young men were drunk too?


Consider this - the young men, to perform the sex act, would have to be at the very least conscious and have some of their mental faculties. A woman could be completely comatose and still, technically, have someone “have sex with her.” For that reason alone the men have more responsibility in this situation.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 1:45 pm to
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I have seen lots of the videos. I eat lunch where one of the kids works and he is a very nice guy. (The driver)


Since he and the old guy declined to participate in the “sex”, i agree that they shouldn’t be charged as rapists. But they did sit by and do nothing. The driver is on video saying “they finna rape her.” He did nothing to stop it.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 1:46 pm to
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Drunk sex vs taking advantage of someone who doesn’t actually want sex is one of the toughest situations to decipher and anyone who pretends it isn’t is foolish.


Well said.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 2:06 pm to
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There is no legal law on what amount of alcohol means consent vs no consent.


Are you sure about that? When the event first happened I seem to recall several people stating there was a defined consent limit and she was well above it.

I have no idea if there is or isn't . . .
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108342 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 2:45 pm to
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Are you sure about that? When the event first happened I seem to recall several people stating there was a defined consent limit and she was well above it.
They were using the defined limit for DUI. There is no defined limit for consent
Posted by Smoke239
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 3:21 pm to
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0.0% chance of that. They didn’t kill her


First degree rape is a life sentence in Louisiana.

LINK
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
175997 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 3:22 pm to
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there is a chance she was ok with the events of the night, or even excited about it. Or she would have gone straight to the cops because she was raped. But there is no way to know with her being deceased. And the tricky part is the defendants aren’t charged with the actual murder


No relevance at all.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120069 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 3:25 pm to
I didn't realize she had a podcast, I will check it out, but while I have no problem listening to some graphic shite, hearing parents who talking about losing their child (especially if the child is an age where they still had a life ahead of them) is something I can't do for long.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 3:25 pm to
The public is just trying to punish someone because she died. And they are using the sex as their weapon
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 3:30 pm to
What???? So if she had not died, should they still be charged??? I’m sure she would not have remembered anything from that night.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465831 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 3:32 pm to
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No relevance at all.

Whether you like it or not, the jury likely will find it relevant, and they are going to make the ultimate decision in this case
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 3:33 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 3:36 pm to
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The ironic thing is if she wouldn’t have been hit by a car,


We probably never know about anything from that night. She either wouldnt remember anything, too ashamed to say anything, or just chalk it up to a crazy drunken night.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 3:38 pm to
Exactly.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175997 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 3:59 pm to
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Whether you like it or not, the jury likely will find it relevant, and they are going to make the ultimate decision in this case


No relevance at all.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2430 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 4:10 pm to
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We probably never know about anything from that night. She either wouldnt remember anything, too ashamed to say anything, or just chalk it up to a crazy drunken night.


Luckily for the DA, these guys provided the evidence by filming it. Maybe it will help their case or maybe it will hurt it, but the video is there. When it all comes out in court, we will probably read about it.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20107 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 5:01 pm to
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eat lunch where one of the kids works and he is a very nice guy. (The driver).


Would it be a bad assumption to think he knew that Washington (?) had previously raped others?

So he brought a rabid dog to a kids park. And then jettisoned Brooks in freezing cold at 2AM.

I don't see a nice guy in this picture.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2430 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 5:07 pm to
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Would it be a bad assumption to think he knew that Washington (?) had previously raped others? So he brought a rabid dog to a kids park. And then jettisoned Brooks on freezing cold at 2AM. I don't see a nice guy in this picture.


It’s an unpopular opinion, but i think he did endanger her life by offering a ride, failing to intervene, and letting her out where he did in her condition. He also filmed the sex/rape without consent, which also is a criminal offense, i think.
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