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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:51 pm to civiltiger07
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:51 pm to civiltiger07
I've watched a lot of trials but this is wild. I can't understand why this man would willingly get on the stand in a trial, this publicized, knowing he lied in multiple different ways about his education.
I don't even think you necessarily need a degree to be an "expert" so to lie about it is absolutely wild.
I don't even think you necessarily need a degree to be an "expert" so to lie about it is absolutely wild.
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:01 pm to MFn GIMP
But his CV that he turned in to court says his degree is pending or something like that.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:02 pm to MFn GIMP
Doesn't make sense at all. How has this not come up in a trial before. Just delete all of the B.S. degree from everything.
maybe he was actually attending classes at the time of previous testimony so it was accurate?
maybe he was actually attending classes at the time of previous testimony so it was accurate?
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:11 pm to MBclass83
Insane own-goal by Brennan putting this guy on the stand and not even addressing his education credentials.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:24 pm to salt of the girth
Not only does this dude have a degree listed on his CV that he did not earn, but his CV list a degree that doesn't even exist!
His CV list a Bachelor of General Science, but the actual degree is Bachelor of General Studies. Which he also didn't earn.
His CV list a Bachelor of General Science, but the actual degree is Bachelor of General Studies. Which he also didn't earn.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:29 pm to civiltiger07
Caught 10 min of Alessi cross between meetings and boy the CW better have paid ole baw a lot for this. Lol. “Ten years doing this and this is the FIRST time you have submitted an addended report?”
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:39 pm to 10tiger
Shannon Burgess is possibly ending his career
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:41 pm to civiltiger07
There is no rehabbing this guy. He's completely cooked, hands shaking, face flushed. He looks like a total liar being publicly shamed.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:27 pm to salt of the girth
Shannon testified during direct that he wrote his May 8th report own his own volition. So Alessi pulls up his May 8th report and reads the first line.
The first line is:
Dear Mr. Brennan,
Pursuant to your request I have completed an additional analysis concerning the above reference matter......
Um seems to me like Shannon did the May 8th report at the request of the Commonwealth.
Mr. Shannon says that the first sentence was a copy paste error from his original report.
The first line is:
Dear Mr. Brennan,
Pursuant to your request I have completed an additional analysis concerning the above reference matter......
Um seems to me like Shannon did the May 8th report at the request of the Commonwealth.
Mr. Shannon says that the first sentence was a copy paste error from his original report.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:53 pm to civiltiger07
quote:
Dear Mr. Brennan,
Pursuant to your request I have completed an additional analysis concerning the above reference matter......
We are supposed to believe that this was simply a copy/paste job. Why would his original report say "additional analysis..." though if it was copy/paste from the original report?
I don't think a single thing that man said was the truth.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:54 pm to MFn GIMP
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Why would his original report say "additional analysis..." though if it was copy/paste from the original report?
I have no idea other than that was his reason
Aperture, LLC should and probably will have some damage control to do.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:58 pm to civiltiger07
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Aperture, LLC should and probably will have some damage control to do.
I've been refreshing his Aperture bio all day waiting to see if they update his education, or if he disappears. I imagine any updates will come after he is off the stand tomorrow but there is no way he will still have a job after this.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 5:42 pm to MFn GIMP
Hit refresh again.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:14 pm to Rebel
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:19 pm to MFn GIMP
Sorry. I thought the YT channel I was watching said his bio was stamped with “not available as an expert”.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:53 pm to Rebel
The CV says that but it has been like that and every experts CV says the same thing.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:58 pm to Rebel
I haven’t seen all of the testimony, but something I’ve been curious about regarding the DNA evidence from the tail light:
As I understand it, the lab found DNA from 3 different people on the tail light (one of whom was John O’Keefe). Also, as I understand it, the only other individuals they screened were Bukhenik and Proctor.
If I were the defense, it seems like part of my strategy would be to point out that there are a million perfectly benign ways that O’Keefe’s DNA could end up on his girlfriend’s tail light. It seems like the presence of DNA from two other unidentified individuals would support this point. If anything, O’Keefe seems like one of the two most likely people (the other being Karen Read) to have DNA show up on Read’s tail light.
Has the defense pushed this angle at all? I know from reading articles today that they asked whether Higgins or the Alberts had been screened, but what about others such as Read herself, Jen McCabe, Kerry Roberts, or even O’Keefe’s niece & nephew? Idk, it just seems like there’s presence of two other unknown individuals’ DNA would kind of undermine relevance of the DNA evidence in the first place.
As I understand it, the lab found DNA from 3 different people on the tail light (one of whom was John O’Keefe). Also, as I understand it, the only other individuals they screened were Bukhenik and Proctor.
If I were the defense, it seems like part of my strategy would be to point out that there are a million perfectly benign ways that O’Keefe’s DNA could end up on his girlfriend’s tail light. It seems like the presence of DNA from two other unidentified individuals would support this point. If anything, O’Keefe seems like one of the two most likely people (the other being Karen Read) to have DNA show up on Read’s tail light.
Has the defense pushed this angle at all? I know from reading articles today that they asked whether Higgins or the Alberts had been screened, but what about others such as Read herself, Jen McCabe, Kerry Roberts, or even O’Keefe’s niece & nephew? Idk, it just seems like there’s presence of two other unknown individuals’ DNA would kind of undermine relevance of the DNA evidence in the first place.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 7:05 pm to lostinbr
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Has the defense pushed this angle at all?
Yes
Posted on 5/19/25 at 7:08 pm to civiltiger07
Gotcha. Thanks.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 7:43 pm to lostinbr
Shanon Burgess has now completely deleted his LinkedIn page. I can't wait for Alessi to ask him about that tomorrow.
ETA: I also feel bad for Burgess. Yes, he lied about his education but I truly think that has to do with our societal expectation that if you haven't graduated from college you're a failure. He does come across as an intelligent man who probably thought he had to lie about his education to get a job he could do well in. I think its 50/50 on the blame for him for lying and Aperture for not verifying.
ETA: I also feel bad for Burgess. Yes, he lied about his education but I truly think that has to do with our societal expectation that if you haven't graduated from college you're a failure. He does come across as an intelligent man who probably thought he had to lie about his education to get a job he could do well in. I think its 50/50 on the blame for him for lying and Aperture for not verifying.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 7:46 pm
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