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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:58 am to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:58 am to
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The wounds on his arm cant be from a car hitting him (they just showed them)


Google image “dog bites on arms”.

They’re dog bites. Where are police dogs trained to bite?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:01 am to
This dude on the witness stand is getting reamed
med.
This post was edited on 5/12/25 at 10:02 am
Posted by OweO
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Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:03 am to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:04 am to


He goes straight to his upper body/arm.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:06 am to
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I’m so tired of this smug arrogant face


He sucks.. He has that shite eating grin..
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6818 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:18 am to
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They’re dog bites. Where are police dogs trained to bite?
Was that a police dog or family pet?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143816 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:18 am to
It’s called “ Schutzhund” training.

I thought the dog bite thing was stretch until going down a rabbit hole this weekend.

Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
1430 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:19 am to
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The wounds on his arm cant be from a car hitting him (they just showed them)


I've said from the beginning, if I'm on that jury, I cannot vote to convict if the prosecution cannot show me 100% how the arm wounds are from being hit by that SUV. If they can't, adios.
Posted by Flick007
Member since Dec 2023
212 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:21 am to
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This dude on the witness stand is getting reamed


The prosecution’s witnesses have been bad the last two days of trial. They don’t have much option. And, it will get worse when they call Proctor. This investigation was so bad and so many coincidences. And making him read the messages was really good cross strategy. I did not realize Higgins sent to messages to her that night.

There are just a lot of coincidences.
This post was edited on 5/12/25 at 7:48 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143816 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:21 am to
Family pet owned by a policeman.

To think a GSD owned by a policemen underwent Schutzhund type training is more likely than not.

Besides the training, it’s instinctual behavior for GSD’s.

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143816 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:27 am to
Add, “A dead cop was found on the Alberts lawn and nobody even thought to even knock on their door.”

That’s inside baseball.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:27 am to
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Family pet owned by a policeman.

IIRC Chloe was a former police dog that either didn't make it through training or was retired after because of aggressiveness.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:29 am to
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Google image “dog bites on arms”.

They’re dog bites. Where are police dogs trained to bite?



What are the odds the dog was commanded to attacked O'keefe to intimidate him, but the dog knocked him back.. He feel and hit his head on something and he was accidently killed?
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6818 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:30 am to
Right, makes sense.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6818 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:31 am to
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And making him read the messages was really good cross strategy.
Genuine question. Why was this good strategy?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143816 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:33 am to
Certainly possible.

But I’m thinking one of the Albert’s threw hands and the dog attacked on instincts.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143816 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:36 am to
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Genuine question. Why was this good strategy?


Because the jury had to hear him call Karen Read a retard and he was searching her phone for her nudes.

A text thread he was included and participated in.

It impeached him both as a State Trooper and a witness.
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
282 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:49 am to
I retract my statement. Watching this guy squirm is worth the last two days on the stand.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2550 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:55 am to
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And, it will get worse when they call Proctor


There is a chance they don't call Proctor. Some think Brennan is trying to get all of Proctor's testimony in through this guy so they can avoid calling Proctor.

The defense would then have to call him as a witness.
Posted by WinnaSez
Jackson, MS
Member since Mar 2019
1394 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:05 am to
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mily pet owned by a policeman. To think a GSD owned by a policemen underwent Schutzhund type training is more likely than not.


I believe the dog had been in K9 police training, but had flunked out. Why? I don’t know?
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