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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:08 pm to AlxTgr
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:08 pm to AlxTgr
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During voir dire, they should have been asked and disqualified if they saw them.
You don’t automatically get disqualified for having seen the interviews. In fact, it might have been part of the reason why they did them, to influence potential jurors.
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Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:17 pm to LSBoosie
quote:You would in any court I have been in.
You don’t automatically get disqualified for having seen the interviews.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:17 pm to LSBoosie
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In fact, it might have been part of the reason why they did them, to influence potential jurors.
It was 100% why the defense lawyers let Karen do them. I also think they, incorrectly, believed that they would be allowed to play the context of the edited clips due to the rule of completion. I don’t think anyone actually believes they will be allowed to do so so we’ll see if it was smart to let her do the interviews. I still don’t think a single clip has been damning yet but who knows what the Commonwealth has queued up.
But even with the clips of Karen wondering if she did something wrong, as the last admitted person to see him, ARRCA should destroy any idea that John was hit by a car. I’ll be shocked if she is convicted based on testimony so far.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:18 pm to civiltiger07
quote:That's not what I thought you were referencing.
the videos from Karen’s interviews that Hank keeps playing at spots throughout the trial are the best evidence the state has.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:19 pm to AlxTgr
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You would in any court I have been in.
This is a different trial than a lot. Something like 75% of potential jurors had some knowledge of the case.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:22 pm to AlxTgr
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That's not what I thought you were referencing.
What interviews did you think I was referencing? Do you still think I need to take my pills?
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:34 pm to MFn GIMP
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I still don’t think a single clip has been damning yet but who knows what the Commonwealth has queued up.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think a singular clip is enough to make a person think she did it either. But the commonwealth is using them to paint a narrative of Karen to influence the jurors. To some, those clips might mean absolutely nothing, but they might mean a lot to one or two of them.
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But even with the clips of Karen wondering if she did something wrong, as the last admitted person to see him, ARRCA should destroy any idea that John was hit by a car.
I would agree, but ARCA testified at the last trial as well and it wasn’t enough.
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I’ll be shocked if she is convicted based on testimony so far.
Barring, video evidence or an admission of guilt, I don’t believe she will ever be convicted. You just aren’t going to find 12 people that will all find her guilty. But the goal is an acquittal, so they will need all 12 jurors to find her not guilty and that could be a problem.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:35 pm to LSBoosie
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Barring, video evidence or an admission of guilt, I don’t believe she will ever be convicted. You just aren’t going to find 12 people that will all find her guilty. But the goal is an acquittal, so they will need all 12 jurors to find her not guilty and that could be a problem.
Going for this a third time?
Good Lord Almighty.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:36 pm to LSBoosie
quote:Prior to voir dire
What interviews did you think I was referencing?
quote:Even more so. You're usually not this unhinged. Normal people don't get this angry over a misunderstanding. You may actually need an additional prescription.
Do you still think I need to take my pills?
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:45 pm to AlxTgr
I’m totally calm man. You keep responding to my posts saying “the frick does it matter” and telling me I’m unhinged because I simply said that the videos aren’t a good look. Civiltiger responded to you with basically the same thing that I said and you had now problem with it.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:49 pm to LSBoosie
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I would agree, but ARCA testified at the last trial as well and it wasn’t enough.
I agree and that was surprising to me. However, in listening to one of the jurors interviews the jurors thought they were hired by Karen’s insurance company so they didn’t really care about their opinion. I would hope the defense is able to dispel that notion this time. They should, based on Jen McCabes testimony of helping to close the investigation which was 100% a lie since they the FBI hired ARCCA after her interviews, but they won’t be allowed to mention the FBI. Hopefully they can at least say it wasn’t Karen’s insurance company that hired them this time.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:49 pm to LSBoosie
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You keep responding to my posts saying “the frick does it matter” and telling me I’m unhinged because I simply said that the videos aren’t a good look. Civiltiger responded to you with basically the same thing that I said and you had now problem with it.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:50 pm to MFn GIMP
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They should, based on Jen McCabes testimony of helping to close the investigation which was 100% a lie since they the FBI hired ARCCA after her interviews, but they won’t be allowed to mention the FBI. Hopefully they can at least say it wasn’t Karen’s insurance company that hired them this time.
They are defense experts this time.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:54 pm to LSBoosie
quote:Keep? I said it once
You keep responding to my posts saying “the frick does it matter”
I thought you meant jurors seeing these prior to the trial. quote:Holy shite
Civiltiger responded to you with basically the same thing that I said and you had now problem with it.
At least I can say I'm drunk.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:02 pm to AlxTgr
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Keep? I said it once
Yes keep. As you said that once and also are talking about me taking my pills or something multiple times. That was weird.
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I thought you meant jurors seeing these prior to the trial.
I’m not sure why you thought that. Look, I get it. You were pissed off at something I said earlier and you were looking for something else that I said to comment on. It’s fine, I’m here to have discussions about the trial. But don’t get mad at me when I respond to you as about something that you are misinterpreting.
Now I’ll go back to talking about the trial like I was so I don’t keep derailing the thread.
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:08 pm to LSBoosie
quote:Nope. As I said, I thought you meant pre-trial. No idea why that's so hard to accept. I admitted I misunderstood. It's not my fault you're fricking insane
You were pissed off at something I said earlier and you were looking for something else that I said to comment on.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:15 pm to AlxTgr
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Nope. As I said, I thought you meant pre-trial. No idea why that's so hard to accept. I admitted I misunderstood.
I’m not sure what you mean by pre-trial. I said that the interviews are not a good look and you said “why does it matter?” It’s very obvious why those interviews would matter.
Serious question, are you following this trial? Because it seems like you didn’t know that the commonwealth has been playing clips from these interviews in court. If that’s the case, then I understand.
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:23 pm to AlxTgr
I got a lawyer question for you. Did you watch the ARCCA voir dire last Monday?
If so I struggling to understand Bevs question to the defense and then statement that she agrees with Alessi and you are going to win.
She ask “how do I square with this rule (regarding deleting text messages between lawyers and defense)”. Alessi reply’s by essentially saying you are interpreting the rule incorrectly. Bev ask again something along the lines of “but how do I deal with this rule when messages were deleted”. Alessi starts to answer then Bev cuts him off and says “I agree with you and you are going to win so let me make the ruling”.
What the frick was going on?! To me it seems Bev made a 180 there. She seemed to go from I dont see how I can allow ARCCA because this rule was broken to you’re right no rule was broken because I misinterpreted the rule.
If so I struggling to understand Bevs question to the defense and then statement that she agrees with Alessi and you are going to win.
She ask “how do I square with this rule (regarding deleting text messages between lawyers and defense)”. Alessi reply’s by essentially saying you are interpreting the rule incorrectly. Bev ask again something along the lines of “but how do I deal with this rule when messages were deleted”. Alessi starts to answer then Bev cuts him off and says “I agree with you and you are going to win so let me make the ruling”.
What the frick was going on?! To me it seems Bev made a 180 there. She seemed to go from I dont see how I can allow ARCCA because this rule was broken to you’re right no rule was broken because I misinterpreted the rule.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:27 pm to LSBoosie
quote:I had no idea. I watch absolutely none of the trial real time.
Because it seems like you didn’t know that the commonwealth has been playing clips from these interviews in court. If that’s the case, then I understand.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:30 pm to civiltiger07
quote:Pretty sure she realized she was confusing rules dealing with clients with those(not sure there even are any) dealing with witnesses. She realized it during the argument and ruled in his favor.
Alessi starts to answer then Bev cuts him off and says “I agree with you and you are going to win so let me make the ruling
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