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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by morganwadefan
TN
Member since May 2023
1449 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:07 pm to
MSP isn’t going to fire Proctor during the trial. I don’t know if they will fire him before the Feds get ahold of him.
Posted by morganwadefan
TN
Member since May 2023
1449 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:09 pm to
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Do they need to come to a unanimous decision?


Judge said it has to be unanimous 12-0.
Posted by morganwadefan
TN
Member since May 2023
1449 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:15 pm to
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Look into the Sandra Birchmore case


Attorney General has taken over Sandra’s case and Stoughton Police Chief issued a scathing statement that says those responsible for Sandra’s death will be brought to justice.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
5633 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:47 pm to
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Attorney General has taken over Sandra’s case and Stoughton Police Chief issued a scathing statement that says those responsible for Sandra’s death will be brought to justice.


It's the least they can do. It seems the police officers started raping her at 13 & murdered her to cover it up.

They have proof of the sexual assaults & still nobody arrested.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92842 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:53 am to
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They have proof of the sexual assaults & still nobody arrested.


Hopefully a smart technician took some fetus DNA from her prior to her burial/cremation
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15016 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:23 am to
The jury had a question for the judge today. They asked if they could wrap up deliberations by 4 today because someone had a long standing appointment.

They actually think they won’t reach a verdict today? Hopefully that’s just a precautionary question.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17857 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:26 am to
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illegally searched Karen’s phone for nudes of her


to be fair...
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86527 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:25 am to
Jackson complained this morning about the lesser charges not having a not-guilty box, which I think is fair. Judge Bev dismissed this complaint and said it's done like that all the time even though the form is inconsistent from the main to lesser. She catches Karen smiling and says, "So you think this is funny Ms. Read?"

What a fricking horrible judge and human being. Of all the players in this shite-show, she's the one I want to see go down the most.
Posted by morganwadefan
TN
Member since May 2023
1449 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 12:04 pm to
I have never been so emotionally invested in a case that I have zero connections to. The levels of corruption are deep and also just knowing the stress Karen must have been feeling for these couple of years. The public confrontation with Turtleboy a few days ago, Brian Albert staring down Karen yesterday in court and now the incident with the verdict form this morning, I feel like Canton must be a sister-city with Pyongyang.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15016 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 2:58 pm to
No verdict today. Would love to be a fly on those walls to see what the discussion is!
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 2:32 pm to
I haven't followed this very closely, but I just saw that the jury sent a note that they could not come to a unanimous verdict after exhaustively reviewing everything. Judge sent them back to deliberate more.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41015 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 3:12 pm to
If it's a mistrial I'd be interested to know the split. Surely with what's come out they don't retry the case unless it's 11-1 or 10-2 to convict.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44977 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 3:21 pm to
How could all 12 people not agree on a Not Guilty verdict? There’s more reasonable doubt in the states case than there is reasonable belief.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86527 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 3:45 pm to
I am with you, but because my feed is dominated by this trial, I run into the odd person who believes guilt. They cite the 24 mph backup, the hair/DNA on the rear of her car, and the "confession".
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
194905 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 3:56 pm to
every woman that has posted in this thread have thought to themselves...

How would I kill somebody
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 4:10 pm to
Looks like they went home for the weekend and will return on Monday.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44977 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 4:23 pm to
Are those people unable to see a single lie in the prosecution’s case and, if not, how can they not doubt everything else?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36495 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 4:26 pm to
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How could all 12 people not agree on a Not Guilty verdict? There’s more reasonable doubt in the states case than there is reasonable belief.

The prosecution messed their case up by not just going for the manslaughter charge. That’s the Occam’s razor of the situation, but instead they went for some nonsense story about her doing it intentionally.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15016 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:38 pm to
It has to be one or two of the jurors that is holding out. I’m sorry but the fed experts proved she did not hit JO with her SUV.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:47 pm to
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and the "confession"


I always took that as a My Cousin Vinny type confession. She's obviously distraught. Even if JO had bruising consistent w/ being hit by a 3 1/2 ton vehicle, and it was obvious he was hit, she clearly didn't do it on purpose. Which makes the biggest charge a clear reach.

Of course all of this is for nothing, since he wasn't struck by a vehicle.
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