re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

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In an e-mail from July 17th, she requests access to "any swabs and/or tissue samples taken from the injuries to O'Keefe's right arm".

After Lally does not address this point in his response, she asks again with added emphasis: "am I correct that law enforcement failed to preserve any tissue samples from the injuries to O'Keefe's right arm?"

On July 21st, the response comes, when Lally makes known: "There were not any tissue samples taken from Mr. O'Keefe's right arm." Over a year after the initial protective order was issued, it turns out the Commonwealth had not collected any samples from John O'Keefe's wounds, despite the fact that it may have contained evidence conductive to her case – such as traces of paint, glass, metal shavings, or plastic that could originate from the Lexus vehicle.

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Commonwealth: "We sent some swabs for DNA testing and they came back negative according to the lab"

Defense: "you don't know how the swabs were taken do you?"

Evidence from police: "we didn't get them from the body and the clothes we took them from we have no idea where they went for several works(SIC) but when we finally got them we went ahead and swabbed them."

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Pig DNA found. Dog treats...

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Civildawg

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Can you please answer the question of what evidence you have that Karen Read is 100% guilty of murder beyond reasonable doubt.

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So you just posted that they didn't even know where they took them from then you automatically say pig DNA from dog treats. If there is pig dna from dog treats there has to be dog dna in the same area. Not one or the other

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This is important to you how?

Do you have a disability you're not disclosing?

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My fear is he’s an actual attorney

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That would be scary

The mental gymnastics being performed to actually convince oneself that 10-15 people are involved in a massive cover-up, including several juveniles (at the time), is fricking impressive.

-She was pissed off at him all day
-She was shithammered, blew a .08 at 0800
-Before they found him, she was calling people saying "maybe I hit him", "I wonder if a snow plow hit him", and told his niece/daughter that her dad was probably dead/
-When they drove up the street, she jumped out of the car because she saw him. He was covered in snow, because there was a literal blizzard that night.
-He had taillight fragment(s) on him and a piece of his hair was frozen to her bumper.
-She lied and said she left him at the bar. Then when called on her BS, said she was so drunk she didn't remember taking him to the house. Ight.
-Her car accelerated in reverse to 24 MPH and then had a slight deceleration to 23.xx MPH, consistent with some sort of impediment being in the way.

Sheep will believe that 10-15 people are involved in a massive cover-up, including several juveniles (at the time). Absolute silliness.

Occam's Razor, Karen Read was shithoused and pissed off/jealous and backed into him when he got out of the car, because she didn't want to go.

So what part of JO’s body made contact with KR’s Lexus?

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Occam's Razor, Karen Read was shithoused and pissed off/jealous and backed into him when he got out of the car, because she didn't want to go.

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Occam's Razor isn't the threshold by which people are convicted of crimes. How did the prosecution prove that she is guilty?

You also didn't mention the plethora of equally if not more damning sus behavior of the investigators and the Proctors.

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This is the main point. Maybe JO went in the house, the dog bit him and he slipped down the stairs to the basement and hit his head. Realizing that the nephew had a beef with the guy, everyone being drunk, and not wanting the dog to be put down, they carried him outside and tried to cover it up. I doubt thats what happened given the sus behavior we've seen in this trial but it is a scenario that is possible.

The point is that a bunch of things could have happened that do not involve Karen Read being guilty of murder or manslaughter or anything like that. Due to the botched investigation, we will never know. But by no means did the prosecution prove beyond a reasonable doubt that JO was hit by ANY car, let alone Karen Read's car.

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So they "tried to cover it up", a dog attack, by placing his corpse in their front yard? I guess I can buy that over the massive conspiracy that the defense presented, that included a fight simulation in the bar, and again involving 10-15 people in the cover-up, only to end it by dragging the corpse into the front yard. But they clearly didn't give too much of a shite about the dog, evidenced by sending it to live out it's days in Vermont. Which again, if the dog was responsible and they were trying to cover it up, why send it away instead of euthanizing it?

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He had taillight fragment(s) on him and a piece of his hair was frozen to her bumper.

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Wrong. They were not on him. The fragments were in his shirt material.

By the way existence of the fragments in his shirt is proof that it was planted. When a taillight lens break they do not break into fragments. They break into large pieces.