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WadeGarrett
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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted by WadeGarrett on 8/9/24 at 3:22 pm to jclem11
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Show the class how JO died by KR's car?
Don't worry, we will wait.
Your burden in BEYOND a reasonable doubt, counselor.
Good luck.
For starters, she told paramedics/"first responders" that "I hit him".
Fragments of her taillight were found on his clothes.
DNA was found on her bumper.
The kicker, though, is that every single fact can be disputed because the cops were such unbelievable shitheads.
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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted by WadeGarrett on 8/9/24 at 2:52 pm to LSBoosie
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Serious question, you used the texts from Read to O’Keefe as a reason to why she would want to murder him. Why aren’t you using Michael Proctor’s texts to his friends as reason to why he would try to cover this up?
I didn't say murder.
What about his texts? The one where the friend asks if the homeowner would be in hot water and he replies something like "no, he's LEO"? Refresh my memory.
re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted by WadeGarrett on 8/9/24 at 2:28 pm to LSBoosie
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What I don't think you and many others don't understand is that the defense isn't trying to prove who killed him and how it happened. That's not their job. They are presenting information to show that there is reasonable doubt to believe that Karen Read didn't do it.
What I don't think you and many others understand is that we're not in a court room, we're not held to "reasonable doubt" standards on the interwebs. The prosecution did a terrible job and the defense did an amazing job, and she likely did it and will probably get away with it because of those two reasons, in addition to the sketchy police-work, non-sterile crime scene, and media frenzy.
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Who gives a frick?
If anybody actually really believed the wounds were from the dog, they could go analyze it. It's in Vermont, not Thailand. If the dog was dead you obviously can't analyze it.
re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted by WadeGarrett on 8/9/24 at 2:24 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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The point isn't that my clearly illogical scenario actually happened. The point is the we don't know what happened (and anything could have happened) because they botched the investigation. You can't send a woman to prison without proof she actually committed a crime. Even if you feel like you "probably did it." The prosecution provided zero proof. And they got caught in many lies and manipulating the evidence along the way.
There is zero doubt that the prosecution did a terrible job.
re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted by WadeGarrett on 8/9/24 at 2:18 pm to LSBoosie
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Proof?
She was blowing up his phone the entire day leading up to the event. Have you actually researched this or are you just regurgitating stuff you read online?
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Do you think all of the other people were sober?
Hello, red herring. What's your point? Of course they were all drunk. There's only one person that was accused of drunkenly hitting him with their car though.
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This story has been changed multiple times.
We agree, she did change her story multiple times.
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Ok?
...she knew where he was because she hit him. He was covered in snow, neither of the other two passengers, one of which was a friend of JOK, could see him because he was completely covered.
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Oh so a guy's hair was found on his girlfriend's car? That's crazy.
Is this satire? His hair was found in the exact spot that she was accused of hitting him, coincidentally where she also had damage to the vehicle.
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Literally nothing you said in this post proves beyond reasonable doubt that Karen Read murdered him. The fact that people like you can be on a jury in scary.
The prosecution did a terrible job, that much is undisputed. The defense did an admirable job in creating reasonable doubt out of literal thin air, unfortunately ruining the lives of several people in the process.
re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted by WadeGarrett on 8/9/24 at 2:12 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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This is the main point. Maybe JO went in the house, the dog bit him and he slipped down the stairs to the basement and hit his head. Realizing that the nephew had a beef with the guy, everyone being drunk, and not wanting the dog to be put down, they carried him outside and tried to cover it up. I doubt thats what happened given the sus behavior we've seen in this trial but it is a scenario that is possible.
The point is that a bunch of things could have happened that do not involve Karen Read being guilty of murder or manslaughter or anything like that. Due to the botched investigation, we will never know. But by no means did the prosecution prove beyond a reasonable doubt that JO was hit by ANY car, let alone Karen Read's car.
So they "tried to cover it up", a dog attack, by placing his corpse in their front yard? I guess I can buy that over the massive conspiracy that the defense presented, that included a fight simulation in the bar, and again involving 10-15 people in the cover-up, only to end it by dragging the corpse into the front yard. But they clearly didn't give too much of a shite about the dog, evidenced by sending it to live out it's days in Vermont. Which again, if the dog was responsible and they were trying to cover it up, why send it away instead of euthanizing it?
re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted by WadeGarrett on 8/9/24 at 1:50 pm to civiltiger07
The mental gymnastics being performed to actually convince oneself that 10-15 people are involved in a massive cover-up, including several juveniles (at the time), is fricking impressive.
-She was pissed off at him all day
-She was shithammered, blew a .08 at 0800
-Before they found him, she was calling people saying "maybe I hit him", "I wonder if a snow plow hit him", and told his niece/daughter that her dad was probably dead/
-When they drove up the street, she jumped out of the car because she saw him. He was covered in snow, because there was a literal blizzard that night.
-He had taillight fragment(s) on him and a piece of his hair was frozen to her bumper.
-She lied and said she left him at the bar. Then when called on her BS, said she was so drunk she didn't remember taking him to the house. Ight.
-Her car accelerated in reverse to 24 MPH and then had a slight deceleration to 23.xx MPH, consistent with some sort of impediment being in the way.
Sheep will believe that 10-15 people are involved in a massive cover-up, including several juveniles (at the time). Absolute silliness.
Occam's Razor, Karen Read was shithoused and pissed off/jealous and backed into him when he got out of the car, because she didn't want to go.
-She was pissed off at him all day
-She was shithammered, blew a .08 at 0800
-Before they found him, she was calling people saying "maybe I hit him", "I wonder if a snow plow hit him", and told his niece/daughter that her dad was probably dead/
-When they drove up the street, she jumped out of the car because she saw him. He was covered in snow, because there was a literal blizzard that night.
-He had taillight fragment(s) on him and a piece of his hair was frozen to her bumper.
-She lied and said she left him at the bar. Then when called on her BS, said she was so drunk she didn't remember taking him to the house. Ight.
-Her car accelerated in reverse to 24 MPH and then had a slight deceleration to 23.xx MPH, consistent with some sort of impediment being in the way.
Sheep will believe that 10-15 people are involved in a massive cover-up, including several juveniles (at the time). Absolute silliness.
Occam's Razor, Karen Read was shithoused and pissed off/jealous and backed into him when he got out of the car, because she didn't want to go.
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