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re: Just heard of a national FAA Ground Stop

Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:40 pm to
Now they finally mentioned it
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51969 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

DUFFY blames Congress: So what happened? Right? What we have is an incredibly old air traffic control system. The president, for the last year has been asking congress to fully fund a full build of a brand new air traffic control system. Give us the money to fix it.
fun fact...when duffy was a congressman he voted to reduce funding for the FAA
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51969 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

DUFFY ON GROUND STOP: The president has asked for $30 billion. I want $50 billion. Congress wastes a lot of money. Let's get the money so we never have to come at 830 at night and have a press conference on why air travel was shut down
clowns. all of them
Posted by SickTiger
Member since Feb 2023
197 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:43 pm to
Tracons and centers coming back online. Here we go
Posted by RebelOP
Misty Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2013
12515 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:44 pm to
They’re screaming hack us bro.
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
5599 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:44 pm to
Not really..

The 2019 vote was against a bill that included FAA funding, but it also covered several other government agencies and programs.

Duffy's spokesperson said the bill offered only a small increase in FAA funding.

PolitiFact examined the voting record and rated the broader claim that Duffy voted against upgrading air traffic control systems Mostly False, because he supported other FAA funding and modernization legislation.

Sources:
- PolitiFact's investigation of Sean Duffy's voting record
- WRAL's fact check
The important distinction is that he did vote against one bill containing FAA funding, but he did not consistently vote against FAA funding.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51969 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:50 pm to
noted

quote:

MULLIN: We've seen zero evidence that this was cyber attack or SI attack.

DOOCY: Then it must be something else. What is the other thing? What caused the instability?

DUFFY: We have old switches, old routers. It's an old system that went down and went down everywhere. It got overloaded. I don't want to rule out that we didn't have nefarious activity here.
ok well that clears it up
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
34309 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:50 pm to
Damn you don’t expect cgrand to be straight up on something like that. The sound bite of saying Duffy voted against it fits the agenda
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
151519 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

SI
Posted by Buzz Lightbeer
Member since Feb 2018
2983 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:53 pm to
These two are not doing a great job.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51969 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

“The new technology was overwhelming the older system”
so...

the AI rollout WAS the problem. outstanding
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
13197 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

These two are not doing a great job.


Who? The MMA fighter and the guy who was on real world San Francisco?
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
12770 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:56 pm to
Update from the gate agent: we have no idea when your flight will depart and if you cancel now you cover any expense. So I can’t reclaim my bags because the airline hasn’t officially cancelled the flight. And if I do end up having to book a hotel for however long in the city of my layover I would be expected to cover the full cost. What a system.
Posted by Buzz Lightbeer
Member since Feb 2018
2983 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:57 pm to
Downvoted because he was on the Boston season, not San Francisco.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
72336 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

Update from the gate agent: we have no idea when your flight will depart and if you cancel now you cover any expense. So I can’t reclaim my bags because the airline hasn’t officially cancelled the flight. And if I do end up having to book a hotel for however long in the city of my layover I would be expected to cover the full cost. What a system.


It sucks but it's hard to expect the airlines to cover all the costs associated with an outage they didn't create.

I don't know the solution. Try to charm them into giving you miles or something maybe.
Posted by K2LAW
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jun 2007
1882 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

Update from the gate agent: we have no idea when your flight will depart


My daughter is boarding now at DFW. They were in the process of boarding when flights were grounded so maybe they’re sort of going in the order they should have gone out????
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10420 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 8:01 pm to
This is a classic shakedown.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51969 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

Q: Are you saying that it was the FAA patching a system that caused this outage?

DUFFY: This is our old analog system that got overloaded with data and started to experience these issues. It's important that we're able to finish this work with additional resources.
Posted by CapitalTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2019
891 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

Update from the gate agent: we have no idea when your flight will depart and if you cancel now you cover any expense. So I can’t reclaim my bags because the airline hasn’t officially cancelled the flight. And if I do end up having to book a hotel for however long in the city of my layover I would be expected to cover the full cost. What a system.


This wasn’t the airline’s fault. I’m not sure why you’re mad at them.
Posted by homesicktiger
High altitude hell
Member since Oct 2004
1685 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

cgrand

quote:
DUFFY blames Congress: So what happened? Right? What we have is an incredibly old air traffic control system. The president, for the last year has been asking congress to fully fund a full build of a brand new air traffic control system. Give us the money to fix it.


fun fact...when duffy was a congressman he voted to reduce funding for the FAA


It's even funner how you reply to yourself.
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