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re: Just got my letter from Blue Cross
Posted on 11/4/16 at 12:36 am to Geekboy
Posted on 11/4/16 at 12:36 am to Geekboy
Medical care isn't medical insurance.
Imagine presenting your homeowner's policy at Ace Hardware every time you went to buy lightbulbs or presenting your vehicle insurance policy to the guy at the carwash.
Contrast that with the current system of using medical insurance for every single health related transaction you make.
As someone else pointed out, how different would a trip to the grocery be if you didn't find out how much you spent until you were mailed a bill two weeks later?
Imagine presenting your homeowner's policy at Ace Hardware every time you went to buy lightbulbs or presenting your vehicle insurance policy to the guy at the carwash.
Contrast that with the current system of using medical insurance for every single health related transaction you make.
As someone else pointed out, how different would a trip to the grocery be if you didn't find out how much you spent until you were mailed a bill two weeks later?
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Posted on 11/4/16 at 6:46 am to Geekboy
Going up over 30% this upcoming year. I paid zero dollars per month for insurance 7 years ago now I pay about 400.00 a month. Thanks Obama and go 
Posted on 11/4/16 at 8:20 am to Canard Noir
You're not fooling anywhere here, there is literally no way you're a conservative.
Yes the ACA was passed in 2009 before Ted Cruz was in the Senate. The Dems passed the ACA without a single Republican vote, which means they had a super-majority.
He did not "fake filibuster," he filibustered. However, this took place in 2013, 4 years after the ACA was passed. Yes, Ted Cruz tried to use the debt ceiling to defund the ACA and was unsuccessful because President Obama would have never signed a bill defunding the ACA.
You realize every furloughed employee got paid for that time they did not work right?
I'd be shocked if a majority of business owners did not agree with Cruz's message, they may have disagreed with his tactics, like myself.
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Look, you said that there was no way the bill could get influenced because the Dems had a super majority. I'm saying there were other ways to skin a cat.
Yes the ACA was passed in 2009 before Ted Cruz was in the Senate. The Dems passed the ACA without a single Republican vote, which means they had a super-majority.
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He was a Senator and he tried a fake filibuster to defund the Act in 2013. He was grandstanding for himself and admitted as much. He couldn't ultimately block the bill but he used the deficit ceiling as leverage to pass a revised version of the ACA.
He did not "fake filibuster," he filibustered. However, this took place in 2013, 4 years after the ACA was passed. Yes, Ted Cruz tried to use the debt ceiling to defund the ACA and was unsuccessful because President Obama would have never signed a bill defunding the ACA.
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The government shutdown hurt a lot of people because 1 million government employees got furloughed indefinitely
You realize every furloughed employee got paid for that time they did not work right?
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and permits weren't issued for businesses who needed them to function. That was his leverage and that's just two of the ways to skin this cat, that's all I was saying.
I'd be shocked if a majority of business owners did not agree with Cruz's message, they may have disagreed with his tactics, like myself.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 8:44 am to Zappas Stache
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Obama put that forward in an effort to work with conservatives
yeah, I remember his promise to keep all the negotiations transparent and would even put the hearings live on CSPAN, nope that did not happen , then he locked the republicans out of the negotiations all togther
Posted on 11/4/16 at 8:57 am to Zappas Stache
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.but Republicans will not allow tweaks to improve it.
Becuase the "twerks" do retain any conservative values.
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Obama put that forward in an effort to work with conservatives.
Is that why they were involved with the negotiations process of the bill?
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liberals hated the plan from the start
Then why was the ACA passed solely by Democratic votes?
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:14 am to TigahJay
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You know how I know you're poor?
This shite again?
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:16 am to lnomm34
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fricked up that we can say "only 12.5%"
Only $3.50 per paycheck increase for me.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:17 am to tiger91
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Grandfathered plan or no? Or does that even matter??? I assumed it did but who knows.
Same plan for the past 3 years or so. $2000 deductible. 0% after deductible.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:18 am to Phat Phil
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a big frick YOU to Republicans for blocking the public option. Republican colleague are a whore for the $$$ health insurance industry.
did you just say FU to the people who tried to make sure it didn't get worse?
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