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re: Just found out a buddy has to have quadruple bypass surgery next week
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:27 pm to TnMountaineer
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:27 pm to TnMountaineer
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Calcium scan is wise. Mine was 484.
What are they doing about that?
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:34 pm to Eli Goldfinger
It’s terrifying. You can still have a heart attack with 0 cac score. Calcium actually makes lesions stable. You can have a 20% soft plaque lesion that is basically invisible to all test, They are the ones that rupture, and cause huge sudden heart attacks and death.
They act like they know what causes heart disease and they really don’t. They can do a decent job at slowing it down.
They love statins, but they don’t reduce events much 1-2%, and don’t increase lifespan.
They act like they know what causes heart disease and they really don’t. They can do a decent job at slowing it down.
They love statins, but they don’t reduce events much 1-2%, and don’t increase lifespan.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:38 pm to Tunasntigers92
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Is he super morbidly obese?
My dad had triple bypass at 50 in much better shape than basically everyone his age. Everyone was shocked when they found out he needed it. A lot of it is genetics.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:47 pm to Eli Goldfinger
If no other symptoms, usually nothing. Might do a stress test, If it’s positive, then that would warrant a heart cath, but otherwise, they’ll just put you on a statin and wait for it to get worse.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 12:18 am to Eli Goldfinger
I had a double bypass and an artificial mitral valve installed in Nov. 2016. One week later i had a second emergency open heart surgery due to bleeding from the sutures in my heart. That one set my recovery back quite a bit.
Recovery can be a bitch. And he will do well to follow his docotr’s Instructions. Also, don’t try to rush recovery. He’s going to need to take it easy for at least a couple months.
Recovery can be a bitch. And he will do well to follow his docotr’s Instructions. Also, don’t try to rush recovery. He’s going to need to take it easy for at least a couple months.
This post was edited on 5/4/19 at 12:19 am
Posted on 5/4/19 at 12:26 am to Eli Goldfinger
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smokes weed in the reg
well that explains it
Posted on 5/4/19 at 12:38 am to Eli Goldfinger
Had quintuple bypass 5 1/2 months ago. It's a tough night before surgery, The first 36 hours suck, but it gets better. The real uncomfortable crap comes when you get home. I had to sleep in a recliner for 2 months.Your friend will become quite attached to his special pillow for about 2 months after surgery. After 6 months he should be back to normal. Get him out and exercising as soon as he is able. Cardiac rehab is a must.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:02 am to Eli Goldfinger
These surgeries scare the crap out of me
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:30 am to Eli Goldfinger
My Dad has a quad in his 70’s and lived another 20 plus years in great health. Pneumonia took him a month ago, quickly and unexpectedly. He was still in his prime for 90.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 5:34 am to Rust Cohle
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They act like they know what causes heart disease and they really don’t. They can do a decent job at slowing it down.
So you are really telling me that cardiologists are no different than cancer doctors.
We only know how to treat and manage your disease but we can’t cure you.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 5:38 am to Tarps99
That’s actually partially correct, until they figure out a way to remove the lesions inside the coronary artery, all they are doing is managing it. Once you are genetically predisposed to heart disease, best they can do now is manage it, no total cure.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 5:50 am to Boston911
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Once you are genetically predisposed to heart disease, best they can do now is manage it, no total cure.
That is what I have been thinking recently.
Having lost a mom to ovarian cancer and a dad who had blood cancer and heart problems, their struggles late in life were more than just what they ate, exercised, and smoked. It was in their genes.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 7:09 am to Eli Goldfinger
Best of luck to your buddy.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 8:53 am to Slevin7
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septuple
Talk about diminishing returns! Didn't even know the heart had that many vessels.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 9:00 am to Lago Gato
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A Physician I work with c/o chest him that day pain so he went down to the ED . Well his troponin level came back high . They wanted to Cath him that day . He told them he had to finish rounding. They found him down in a hallway. MI . 48 year old . I think genetics plays s big part . But smoking,eating crap , and not exercising sure doesn’t help!
The frick?
Posted on 5/4/19 at 9:04 am to Eli Goldfinger
Friend of mine is in great shape. Runner, works out, and adheres to a fairly strict diet. Fell out while playing basketball at 38. They had to do CPR, and he had 95% blockage in one of his arteries.
Crazy how people assume they're going to grow old, and there's not another day guaranteed.
Crazy how people assume they're going to grow old, and there's not another day guaranteed.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 9:09 am to dbeck
Genetics plays a huge role
Posted on 5/4/19 at 10:01 am to LNCHBOX
Marathon runners, and other endurance athletes show an uptick in heart disease.
Men in Japan smoke 2x more, have higher ldl, and blood pressure, consume less carbs, and 60% less diabetes. They have 30% less heart disease, and when they move out of Japan to California or Hawaii their chances of having a heart attack jump by 50%
Anecdotal evidence I have seen.
Alcoholics, don’t have coronary heart disease, but end up having heart failure.
Morbidly obese people in their 30s and early 40s don’t have heart disease, but you don’t see 60-year-olds weighing 400 pounds, because they have died from something else.
You can find someone who lives a hard life and smokes for 40 years and not have heart disease. No one can escape diabetes, it ravages all the vessels in the body.
Most diabetes goes undiagnosed. Diabetes is a metabolic dysfunction, and it doesn’t just magically start at an A1C of 6. It is a spectrum and the lower your A1c the better. Drs see diabetic complications in “pre diabetes range” but it starts even lower than that.
Men in Japan smoke 2x more, have higher ldl, and blood pressure, consume less carbs, and 60% less diabetes. They have 30% less heart disease, and when they move out of Japan to California or Hawaii their chances of having a heart attack jump by 50%
Anecdotal evidence I have seen.
Alcoholics, don’t have coronary heart disease, but end up having heart failure.
Morbidly obese people in their 30s and early 40s don’t have heart disease, but you don’t see 60-year-olds weighing 400 pounds, because they have died from something else.
You can find someone who lives a hard life and smokes for 40 years and not have heart disease. No one can escape diabetes, it ravages all the vessels in the body.
Most diabetes goes undiagnosed. Diabetes is a metabolic dysfunction, and it doesn’t just magically start at an A1C of 6. It is a spectrum and the lower your A1c the better. Drs see diabetic complications in “pre diabetes range” but it starts even lower than that.
This post was edited on 5/4/19 at 10:20 am
Posted on 5/4/19 at 10:52 am to dbeck
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quadruple bypass surgery
He’s 38
Not trying to be crass but how does that happen?
We are all different.
Next generation will be using dna info early on.
While not mainstream, some iridology can shed light on tendencies.
Iridology sorts out people into four age groupings.
Do you want to know you are likely to die before 40?
Posted on 5/4/19 at 11:37 am to Eli Goldfinger
Went through this, similar age with a family member.
The biggest key to recovery is to go slowly...takes 12 weeks before any type of major physical work is allowed.
This is critical. The nurses and Dr. could not stress enough that the number one reason people ended up back in the hospital after bypass surgery was the patient trying to push themselves too hard before they were cleared to do so.
Logistical support of family / friends the first several weeks is super important. Not something you want to go through alone.
The biggest key to recovery is to go slowly...takes 12 weeks before any type of major physical work is allowed.
This is critical. The nurses and Dr. could not stress enough that the number one reason people ended up back in the hospital after bypass surgery was the patient trying to push themselves too hard before they were cleared to do so.
Logistical support of family / friends the first several weeks is super important. Not something you want to go through alone.
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