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Judge orders kids held in juvenile center after refusing to see dad

Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:02 am
Posted by 805tiger
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:02 am
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:03 am to
They shouldn't go to juvenile, but from the looks of the article the mom is brainwashing those kids with her side of the story.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 9:06 am
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34344 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:04 am to
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"I felt like I was watching them be executed," said Maya Tsimhoni.

What?
Posted by HornsLife
Dallas, TX
Member since Feb 2014
786 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:06 am to
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She ordered the Tsimhoni kids ages 14,10 and 9 to have a "healthy relationship" with their father.


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Her son at one point even tried to explain to the judge why he didn't want to spend time with his dad. "Because he is violent and I saw him hit my mom," he said in court documents.


They judge is ridiculous. She should be removed from the bench.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:06 am to
Welcome to 2015......
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
157346 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:12 am to
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She ordered the Tsimhoni kids ages 14,10 and 9 to have a "healthy relationship" with their father.

WTF?
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She criticized them for avoiding him and even compared them to Charles Manson and his cult. Gorcyca then ordered the children to apologize and have a nice lunch with their dad.

What the frick?
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When they refused, Gorcyca held them in contempt and had each child hauled off to Children's Village's juvenile hall - until they are 18 years old.

WHAT THE MOTHERfrickING frick??????

Is this real life? Surely this can't be legal and should be easily appealed, no? Especially if this is true:
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"Because he is violent and I saw him hit my mom," he said in court documents.



And even if the mom is brainwashing the kids to a degree, throwing the kids in juvey is completely out of control, and that judge should be removed from service, right after she goes and fricks herself.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:15 am to
We are only getting what the moron journalist is feeding us. My gut feeling is the mom is a psycho and is brainwashing her kids against their father (hence the Manson family reference). You have to really read between the lines on this one.

edit: If the kids even refuse to see their dad you know there is some heavy shite going on. No allegations or charges of abuse other than "hitting" her mother.

Dude is an ex-Israeli AF pilot and PhD. Give him a little benefit of the doubt. Seems like every dad's fear.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 9:18 am
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7832 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:17 am to
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Surely this can't be legal and should be easily appealed, no?
Said that the father can have them released if he says they have learned their lesson. But then he left the country and won't be back for two weeks. Sounds like an all around clusterfrick.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:17 am to
The judge needs to get hard time in prison for her ruling.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:18 am to
I feel like we aren't getting an objective, unbiased story in that link. What a clusterfrick though.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:18 am to
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Mr.Perfect


You should read the court transcript before you make such a insane comment.

LINK

Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:19 am to
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We are only getting what the moron journalist is feeding us. My gut feeling is the mom is a psycho and is brainwashing her kids against their father (hence the Manson family reference). You have to really read between the lines on this one.


So you punish the kids and not the mom?
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11723 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:19 am to
She definitely did the wrong thing, but I can imagine that there was a shite storm that has been raging for a while that led up to this.

She should face discipline from the California Supreme Court, but I'm sure there is a lot more going on here than the article lets on.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:23 am to
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You should read the court transcript before you make such a insane comment.


I read it. Mom brainwashed the kids to the point that they won't even see the father if she begged them. It's supervised visits...not custody. The judge lays it all out and knows much more about this situation than we get from a transcript or a twisted click bait article.

edit: I'm not defending the judge here. It's more shite heaped on the kids. A total disaster.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 9:27 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
157346 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:26 am to
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but I can imagine that there was a shite storm that has been raging for a while that led up to this.

I have no doubts about that.
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but I'm sure there is a lot more going on here than the article lets on.

Or that either.

But to put the kids in juvey (assuming that's really wher they are) seems fricking ridiculous.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:26 am to
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She should face discipline from the California Supreme Court, but I'm sure there is a lot more going on here than the article lets on.


This is in Michigan. Oakland County is in Michigan.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26246 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:30 am to
I don't agree with what the judge did, but parental brainwashing is a common and frustrating issue in child custody matters.

It is also a tough issue to resolve - it is a shame that there are so many shitty parents who screw their kids up because they are pissed at their ex.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:30 am to
He married Squeaky Fromme and she turned his kids against him because their 14+ year marriage failed. A Judge comes along and let her emotions get in the way and she ends up punishing the kids more. Nightmare.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:33 am to
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25856 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:36 am to
What a weird story. Seems like some bullshite that would happen on some other country.
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