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Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:28 pm to johnnyrocket
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1970’s and even early 90’s that road next to manchac acted as a levee.
It still does, except that it overflows (like it always has) the road in extreme weather situations, including the backflow problem in 2016 and the heavy rainfall this week.
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Is Iberville Parish the issue or EBRP?
Right now, Iberville is violating a court order.
Big problem is lack of regional cooperation for a drainage solution that identifies development zones and protects them while advocating for federal and state dollars for enabling projects.
The second problem (and this is statewide, not just EBR) is the lack of maintenance of our own waterways, which occasionally need to be dredged and cleared. That's a problem that takes years to address and a constant maintenance effort that no one wants to pay for. But it's absolutely critical if we want Louisiana to develop and grow.
The third problem is development in not only a flood prone area, but a literal swamp. That's on Iberville and Ascension for allowing it. So they block off 2/3rds of a natural estuary and risk flooding people uphill because they didn't tell people "no" when they wanted to live IN a lake. Like our bayous and rivers, Spanish Lake is a natural flood management resource. For a century, it served as a reservoir that holds water that can't possibly flow down Bayou Manchac all at once. Since there's no pump station to move the water over the Mississippi River Levee (again, because there's no regional cooperation to seek funding for it), the only way out is Bayou Manchac.
The Aqua dam is ridiculous and should be removed now. The other solutions are going to take years to fix.
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When the parish allowed a swamp land to be developed this is when the problems started.
If Iberville hadn't allowed development IN a swamp, they wouldn't have to violate a court order to build an Aqua Dam to hold the entire reservoir hostage.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:31 pm to X123F45
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Please stop lying. The houses will flood regardless at the rate.
They are flood prone (more than many other homes in Ascension, Iberville, and East Baton Rouge at higher elevation) because they are in a natural swamp.
That's not a lie. It's a fact.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:37 pm to X123F45
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Well Iberville has decided they no longer want to handle unmitigated flow.
Why doesn't Louisiana just dam up the Mississippi River because it "no longer wants to handle the unmitigated flow?" It's not Louisiana's problem if that floods half of the United States, right?
Point is, by law, downstream properties can't just block the natural flow of water. All water in our area of the country flows essentially south towards the Gulf of Mexico. Virtually all areas of the country have land to the north of them and land to the south of them. So everyone is obligated to accept the natural flow of water from the land to the north of you, and the land to the south of you cannot block the natural flow of water that comes from your land.
Basically, you cannot block the natural flow of water towards the Gulf of Mexico.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:42 pm to Gauge
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Why doesn't Louisiana just dam up the Mississippi River because it "no longer wants to handle the unmitigated flow?" It's not Louisiana's problem if that floods half of the United States, right?
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Basically, you cannot block the natural flow of water towards the Gulf of Mexico.
You don't realize the levee system installed around the lower Mississippi river does exactly this???
Memphis residents should be pissed at those who decided to build in Morgan City. Swamp creatures!!!!
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:45 pm to StinkBait72
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Remember in 2016 when Honeywell lost an acid tank due to high water?
They lost an acid tank, but it damn sure wasn't due to high water coming from alligator bayou.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:46 pm to goofball
You mean like the natural swamps off Burbank and LA 30 near Bayou Fountain where the land was built up?
All this land was low around Bayou Fountain going back prior to construction boom in the 2000’s.
EBRP just allowed their developers to build the land up on the newer developments. They just do not have as many older subdivisions on the EBRP side as this are was farmland or swampland.
The older developments going back toward Gardere flood if you spit on the ground near that area on a dry day as they were not built up as high.
Looks like EBRP is a huge part of the problem and we want everyone else to fix our problems.
I agree with Mitchell Ourso on this one it is an EBRP problem. EBRP, needs to fix it which they will not.
Unfortunately, until our citizens push on the metro council to fix this and slow down developments along Bayou Fountain this problem will not go away.
We got problems along Wards Creek, Claycut Bayou, and Jones Creek. EBRP, cannot keep blaming other parishes on a poorly designed drainage plans and it is getting worse and worse where you cannot sweep it under a rug anymore.
All this land was low around Bayou Fountain going back prior to construction boom in the 2000’s.
EBRP just allowed their developers to build the land up on the newer developments. They just do not have as many older subdivisions on the EBRP side as this are was farmland or swampland.
The older developments going back toward Gardere flood if you spit on the ground near that area on a dry day as they were not built up as high.
Looks like EBRP is a huge part of the problem and we want everyone else to fix our problems.
I agree with Mitchell Ourso on this one it is an EBRP problem. EBRP, needs to fix it which they will not.
Unfortunately, until our citizens push on the metro council to fix this and slow down developments along Bayou Fountain this problem will not go away.
We got problems along Wards Creek, Claycut Bayou, and Jones Creek. EBRP, cannot keep blaming other parishes on a poorly designed drainage plans and it is getting worse and worse where you cannot sweep it under a rug anymore.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:46 pm to johnnyrocket
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You mean like the natural swamps off Burbank and LA 30 near Bayou Fountain where the land was built up?
No. Downhill from that. In Spanish Lake. Where everything uphill has drained for a long time until it flowed out through Bayou Manchac.
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I agree with Mitchell Ourso on this one it is an EBRP problem. EBRP, needs to fix it which they will not.
Drainage is a regional problem that will require cooperation to fix.
EBR's development is, at best, a contributing factor. If it were never developed, water would still flow into Spanish Lake like it always has, because it's naturally lower.
Ourso is is a slack jawed moron that is posturing to other fools with low income, no education, and a huge chip on their shoulder. The aqua dam will come down. Iberville has a history of being opposed to cooperating with adjacent parishes (including WBR) for anything from transportation to flood management.
So the court orders will continue and the dam will keep being put up during flood events and will have to continue being removed. Because it's easier to posture and pretend you are doing something meaningful than to actually work with other parishes and the capital area delegation to develop a regional drainage solution and advocate for state and federal funds to implement it.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:52 pm to goofball
You’re skipping over a lot to get to your point. Uninformed opinion. The water levels in 2016 and 2021 are significantly higher than ever before. None of this was ever an issue until South EBR was developed. Keep your water in EBR. That’s all that Iberville is doing.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:55 pm to Taxing Tiger
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Keep your water in EBR. That’s all that Iberville is doing.
By blocking the natural flow of water.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:57 pm to Taxing Tiger
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Keep your water in EBR
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:58 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
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Are these aquadams currently deployed?
Yes.
And FWIW, Bayou Manchac is also probably full of a decades worth of accumulated obstructions, logs, trees, garbage, and sedimentation.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:58 pm to CarRamrod
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Keep your water in EBR
Louisiana should dam up the Mississippi River at Angola. Tell Mississippi to keep their water.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 2:03 pm to dewster
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Yes.
And FWIW, Bayou Manchac is also probably full of a decades worth of accumulated obstructions, logs, trees, garbage, and sedimentation.
I would love to see some pictures of these aquadams in action. It would be an excellent way for Ourso and the Iberville Parish to troll our POS mayor.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 2:13 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
Coming soon to Ascension Parish.
Poop walls everywhere!
Poop walls everywhere!
Posted on 5/20/21 at 2:29 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
Instead of our mayor president working to clean the Bayou with neighboring parishes she will build more bike paths for NBR.
What is pulling the rug off this issue is Wards Creek and Bayou Fountain are flooding large middle class neighborhoods.
I would hate to see anyone flood.
If the water bags stay up to protect the properties in Iberville Parish and more upper middle class people flood in EBRP things should be addressed.
Issues from zoning in swamp lands in EBRP, a regional flood plan, and cleaning out bayous should hopefully be addressed.
What is pulling the rug off this issue is Wards Creek and Bayou Fountain are flooding large middle class neighborhoods.
I would hate to see anyone flood.
If the water bags stay up to protect the properties in Iberville Parish and more upper middle class people flood in EBRP things should be addressed.
Issues from zoning in swamp lands in EBRP, a regional flood plan, and cleaning out bayous should hopefully be addressed.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 2:45 pm to johnnyrocket
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Instead of our mayor president working to clean the Bayou with neighboring parishes she will build more bike paths for NBR.
Yup. They skip over the basics of what tax money is supposed to be used for.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 2:47 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
I thought this was a thread about Tommy Tuberville. Is he involved?
Posted on 5/20/21 at 2:48 pm to SaintsTiger
Broome is a damn hack. What is she doing to enforce the order? HAs she called in the State Police?
Civics 101 says the legislature makes law, the courts interpret the law (say what it is), and the executive branch enforces it. How is she enforcing it?
She knew full well this order wouldn't be followed. Only got it to have something to show constituents.
Civics 101 says the legislature makes law, the courts interpret the law (say what it is), and the executive branch enforces it. How is she enforcing it?
She knew full well this order wouldn't be followed. Only got it to have something to show constituents.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 3:06 pm to SaintsTiger
A couple of baws need to launch into Bayou Manchac from the UClub golf course in a bateau with a machete. We can take care of this tonight.
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