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re: Judge gives guy 50 years no parole for drug charge
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:09 pm to Maverick01
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:09 pm to Maverick01
I grew up in a small Georgia town to a STAUNCH republican family. My extended family is all repubs and my ancestors as far as I can recall were repubs. As is the way of the world, much of that ideology was passed to me. And I do still hold many of those values.
But the whole drug issue just blows my mind as an adult. If an adult wants to do something that can kill him within 15 minutes, why is it anyone else's fault or responsibility? I have ALWAYS, even when I fricked up by taking other people's toys in preschool, taken responsibility for my own actions. I fully believe that full grown adult arse people should take responsibility for their actions. If you want to do heroine...fine! Knock yourself out. If you die, don't blame the guy you bought it from. Don't blame your parents for enabling you. It's your fault.
Yes, I realize that drugs are against the law and we have to punish people who break the law. I get that mindset. But hell..I don't know, maybe as I've gotten older I've morphed into somewhat of a libertarian. I couldn't give the slightest shite about politics. I've never even voted. Really my philosophy on life is do whatever you want as long as it's not endangering or infringing on other people. Do all the drugs you want, just don't let it affect me.
50 frickin years in jail for selling something that people are willing to buy. Sheesh.
But the whole drug issue just blows my mind as an adult. If an adult wants to do something that can kill him within 15 minutes, why is it anyone else's fault or responsibility? I have ALWAYS, even when I fricked up by taking other people's toys in preschool, taken responsibility for my own actions. I fully believe that full grown adult arse people should take responsibility for their actions. If you want to do heroine...fine! Knock yourself out. If you die, don't blame the guy you bought it from. Don't blame your parents for enabling you. It's your fault.
Yes, I realize that drugs are against the law and we have to punish people who break the law. I get that mindset. But hell..I don't know, maybe as I've gotten older I've morphed into somewhat of a libertarian. I couldn't give the slightest shite about politics. I've never even voted. Really my philosophy on life is do whatever you want as long as it's not endangering or infringing on other people. Do all the drugs you want, just don't let it affect me.
50 frickin years in jail for selling something that people are willing to buy. Sheesh.
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:10 pm to Maverick01
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Williams was on probation for aggravated assault with a firearm at the time.
Willing to bet he had a pretty long rapsheet as well.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:11 pm to novabill
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Imagine what Drano would do if you ingested that
What's the high like when you ingest Drano? Anything like the high you get from shooting heroin?
Actually if you could describe both highs to me, that would be great since I have no idea.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:11 pm to Maverick01
The defendant was on probation for aggravated assault with a firearm. I assume that Louisiana has some form of sentencing guidelines where prior records are heavily weighted in determining a sentence.
This 50 year sentence isn't just predicated on the heroin case. Get your facts straight.
This 50 year sentence isn't just predicated on the heroin case. Get your facts straight.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:12 pm to boddagetta
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But I'd also like to believe the legal repercussions (as well as health effects) is what deters most sane people from getting involved with a drug like heroin.
Hello nanny state. I wonder how many "small govt" supporters believe in this.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:12 pm to Maverick01
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Williams was on probation for aggravated assault with a firearm at the time.
Well, bye
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:13 pm to Maverick01
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Legalize and regulate it, but don't waste taxpayer's money on putting a guy behind bars for 50 years for a nonviolent drug charge.
I mean I get it, but that doesn't make the problem go away. If people were OD'n on legalized and regulated heroin this guy would be sued out of his mind in civil court instead of doing time, but there would still be repercussions.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:14 pm to Barf
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Which almost always involves other drugs, usually benzos and/or alcohol.
50 years for a drug charge is fricking ludicrous and criminal in itself. I'd like to see this judges campaign donations.
I don't have a problem with 50 years for Heroin distribution at mid-level dealer. I don't want that to happen to a dude on the streets trying to hustle grams for a living.
I also don't like this new law that puts away friends for life if you administer the drug. This is absolutely counter-productive. So many people are ODing and left to die b/c the person with them freaks out and bolts. With Narcan in every first responder's kit these days, this is SO frickING STUPID and people are dying because of that law.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:14 pm to tLSU
We are already paying for all this plus lawyer fees now.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:14 pm to LSUwag
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I assume that Louisiana has some form of sentencing guidelines where prior records are heavily weighted in determining a sentence.
Large range in sentencing and it really up to the judge.
I wish Louisiana would standardize sentencing much like the Feds. It would make things easier.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:15 pm to Barf
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50 years for a drug charge is fricking ludicrous and criminal in itself. I'd like to see this judges campaign donations.
It's a law passed by the legislature. We know trash doesn't like laws, but there are consequences. As someone else said, change the law if you don't like it. If you choose to disobey, enjoy the sentence prescribed by law. Hopefully he gets multiple billed and flattened out.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:16 pm to Maverick01
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Baton Rouge state judge sentenced a Baker man to the maximum 50 years in prison without benefit of parole for trying to sell heroin
Wait. What? How is this not an onion article?
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charge of possession with intent to distribute heroin. The case did not involve a death
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they say he tossed a clear plastic baggie containing suspected heroin under the front passenger seat of his vehicle. It turned out to be more than 20 grams — about an ounce — of heroin
I'm really glad they got the amount correct. Even if it was a full ounce that's still only like $1k of dope. I bet BRPD is really patting themselves on the back for this one. Huge drug bust. Good job guys!
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District Judge Mike Erwin, who has been a judge on the 19th Judicial District Court bench since 1991, said he would like to have sentenced Williams to life in prison, which was the penalty for the crime of possession with intent to distribute heroin prior to 2001.
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“I am aware that the change in the sentencing provisions is not the only factor involved in the rise of heroin, but I also know that when the penalty was life imprisonment, we didn’t have as many heroin dealers and users on every street corner selling this poison to our citizens,” the judge said.
This is a judge saying these things. This is scary shite.
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“If a life sentence for dealing heroin were still an option, I would feel comfortable sentencing every convicted heroin dealer to life in prison without the eligibility of parole and truly believe it would be a start in the process of saving lives and hopefully run these criminals out of Baton Rouge,” the judge said.
Why is nobody talking about this?
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“Heroin dealers are not welcome here, and if tried and convicted, they will more than likely receive the maximum sentence allowable by law,”
frick this guy.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:18 pm to LSUwag
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The defendant was on probation for aggravated assault with a firearm. I assume that Louisiana has some form of sentencing guidelines where prior records are heavily weighted in determining a sentence. This 50 year sentence isn't just predicated on the heroin case. Get your facts straight.
Exactly.
All these posters that think the jails are full of innocent potheads obviously don't know how judges think or how the criminal justice system works.
Most judges are bright people who know that prison is expensive and that space is limited.
Nobody (or, almost nobody) is serving hard time for a first offense, no matter what the drug is, even if it is heroin.
Crime is down b/c we finally are locking up criminals up.
Build more jails.
Now!
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:18 pm to Aristo
So? How does that change my statement at all? If you want it legalized, and you choose to use it, you are off the taxpayer's dime. Maybe you can find an insurance company that will give you high risk insurance. If not, good luck. And if you cant afford to eat because you chose to buy heroin, starve. The state should not fund trashy reckless behavior.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:19 pm to Deactived
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What's the downfall of making heroin legal?
I would imagine a lot more adults and most likely kids addicted to the shite. But hey, if you're an adult who the frick am I to tell you how to live your life.
I just don't want a lot of people addicted to it. But I also don't wanna pay for a number of adults to rot in jail for an non-violent crime and me have to pay for them.
So I could go either way.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:19 pm to boddagetta
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Legalize and regulate heroin? You're shitting me right?
no
we already do it with oxycontin
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:20 pm to tLSU
Thank god for the Louisiana Sheriff's lobby for pumping money to politicians the keep these laws stiff so that we can all stay safe 
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:20 pm to Barf
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Why is nobody talking about this?
How much less power would this judge, LEO, DA have if we repealed ridiculous drug sentencing laws?
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:21 pm to Barf
Find me a case where a numbnuts w/ no priors, especially violent ones, is receiving a long sentence.
Or where a first-time offender is getting thrown in jail for a long period...
I'll wait.
Or where a first-time offender is getting thrown in jail for a long period...
I'll wait.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:21 pm to mikelbr
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So many people are ODing and left to die b/c the person with them freaks out and bolts
Except they are not dying left and right. You know how many herion deaths EBR has had in 2016? Two, fricking two. Only 38 in all of 2015.
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