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re: Joe Rogan's podcast with Tim Kennedy about Nazis who fled to South America

Posted on 5/20/18 at 7:53 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 7:53 pm to
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Americans are being fooled by propaganda to fear and hate Muslims,






Yup. Pure propaganda.

Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1067 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:05 pm to
If you haven't seen Hunting Hitler with Tim Kennedy, you're missing out. Great show!
Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:13 pm to
I was reading upon how the Nazis had a secret network and worst case scenario plan to flee in case Germany lost the war. And the more I research the more I am convinced that Hitler was among them. After the Valkyrie assassination attempt Hitler constantly used body doubles and limited his appearances in public. What the Russians found that day and the fact that the investigation into identifying the body was so sketchy, it had to have been the double. A master manipulator like Hitler doesn't just take his own life.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17232 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:27 pm to
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They all knew Hitler’s vision.


As expressed in his writings and speeches. Which of those writings and speeches referred to genocide exactly? Please refer to the chapter in Mein Kampf or any excerpt from Hitler prior to 1933 where you seem to think this is the case.

I'll save you the trouble, there isn't any. The only speech that one can point to was a 1939 speech in the Reichstag where Hitler threatened that if the Jews were successful in starting another world war (he blamed them for the first as well) then it would not result in the Bolshevisation of the world but in the destruction of Jewry in Europe.

Even in that statement the German people could not envision a genocide. Throughout the entire speech Hitler spoke about AVOIDING WAR. This is what the German people heard from Hitler, not that he wanted a war and to exterminate Jews. Most historians agree that the actual decision to physically liquidate Jews in German captivity wasn't even made by Hitler until several years into the war. Yet apparently you seem to think the German population had future seeing omniscience.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117183 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:29 pm to
Is Stanley Hilton still alive?

He could drop some fricking knowledge on you.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
68399 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:38 pm to
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Supposedly he had the 5 slowest workers hung and made an example of them.



Supposedly...that sounds made up.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:06 pm to
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As expressed in his writings and speeches. Which of those writings and speeches referred to genocide exactly? Please refer to the chapter in Mein Kampf or any excerpt from Hitler prior to 1933 where you seem to think this is the case.



Hitler never overtly said it, but the only way his vision could come to fruition is genocide. They all knew it, they just thought that there was enough standing between Hitler and his insane goals. Where it is most overtly stated is Hitler's admiration for America. He admired the genocide of the Natives, the Jim Crow and slave laws that put minorities in their place, taking the land for themselves as a pure white race. His contradictory views of America makes it clear that he wanted to wipe out or enslave every non-Aryan.

The way he treated his enemies in the West compared to his enemies in the East was extremely different. Nazis would wine and dine their British, French, and American prisoners, but would throw their Russian prisoners in an open field and let them starve/freeze to death. Hitler was clearly going to kill or enslave anyone who didn't fit his Aryan vision.
Posted by PoBoy1
Member since Mar 2014
516 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:40 pm to
Listened to it today while doing yard work. Thought-provoking and included a lot of things I didn’t know (although I knew generally about Nazis to South America).

Told wife all about it, she said: “You listened to a 3-hour podcast?”
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:49 pm to
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Told wife all about it, she said: “You listened to a 3-hour podcast?”


Yeah, I’m moving to Denver in a month and will have plenty of these on hand. Thinking of downloading the Hardcore History on the Roman Republic.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:01 pm to
Nazi German blond hair and blue eyes, Brazilian hips and butt. Sounds like my dream woman.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:07 pm to
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Correct. Mussolini was kicked out of Rome and Italy joined the allies. Mussolini fled to northern Italy (which was still under Fascist control) and stayed allied with Hitler, until he got hung from a lamppost.



Damn. I googled Mussolini death and his body was badly mutilated if those photos are authentic.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17232 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:17 pm to
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Hitler never overtly said it, but the only way his vision could come to fruition is genocide. They all knew it, they just thought that there was enough standing between Hitler and his insane goals.


You realize that just saying something doesn't make it so, right? You aren't actually making a valid argument when you simply say, "they all knew it" without any substantiation. In fact, I already debunked it in the previous post.

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The way he treated his enemies in the West compared to his enemies in the East was extremely different. Nazis would wine and dine their British, French, and American prisoners, but would throw their Russian prisoners in an open field and let them starve/freeze to death. Hitler was clearly going to kill or enslave anyone who didn't fit his Aryan vision.



None of this has anything to do with ascertaining what the German people could have or did know at the time of elections and even the prewar period that followed as to Hitler's ultimate doings.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:15 am to
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The Nazis didn't seize power, they were voted in. And most people approved, or at least were willing to look the other way, as long as things were going well. The myth of the Good German is just that, a myth.

What nonsense is this?

We just had an election where half the idiots supported Hildebeast. That doesn't mean the entire country wanted to head down that path
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:18 am to
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Very much like what is currently happening in this country. Americans are being fooled by propaganda to fear and hate Muslims, so that the Fascist establishment that controls this country, can carry out its decades-long agenda of regime change, saving of the Petro Dollar, and controlling central banks in the Middle East.


America doesn't even control its own banks.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If you look at where all the conflicts in the world are taking place you see a clear picture; they are not part of the world banking system and IMF (International Monetary Fund).

The only places in the Middle East that are not part of the IMF are Syria (war going on there), Iraq (war going on there), and Afghanistan (not really middle east, but guess what war going on there).

North Korea is also not part of the IMF.

This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 2:27 am
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:23 am to
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Yup. Pure propaganda.


White people shooting up schools and black people killing each other don't make me hate all white people or black people.

Why should the acts a few Islamic radicals make me hate all Muslims?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37481 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 7:44 am to
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Why should the acts a few Islamic radicals make me hate all Muslims?

Not saying that you should, but being black or white isn't a choice or ideology. There's a bit of a difference between a race and an ideology.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 8:01 am to
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Thinking of downloading the Hardcore History on the Roman Republic

pay for the fall of the republic, if that's what you're referencing. GOAT hardcore history

it's fricking long as shite though. i think the last episode is 6 hours long
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
24920 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 8:11 am to
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While this is a relatively well known historical fact, what is not so well espoused, among laymen anyway, was the Catholic Church's role in helping those 1000's of Nazis obtain "legal" visas.


I read this same thing in a book... The Catholic church helped many Nazi's escape Germany, coupled with the Catholic church's silence during the Holocaust.... gives the appearance of being sympathetic to the Nazi's.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135035 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 8:20 am to
Death Throes of the Republic is what you are thinking of.


Throw in Celtic Holocaust too
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25920 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 8:40 am to
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There’s a theory that Josef Mengele ended up in Brazil and kept experimenting



Thats not a theory dude.
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