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Joe Rogan with: Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson, Michael Shermer
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:00 pm
Huge fan of JRE, Graham and Carlson. From what I'm guessing Shermer is not a fan of Hancock and Carlson?
LINK
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 9:48 am
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:12 pm to SmackDaniels
i will listen later on with a glass of bourbon. should be good
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:13 pm to SmackDaniels
If you like this sort of stuff, explore the TD thread below. The discussion of ancient civilizations start on page 10. Lots of good contributions in the thread.
LINK
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:13 pm to SmackDaniels
What are they bitching about?
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:15 pm to SmackDaniels
Sherman is a whole bunch of obnoxious.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:19 pm to Upperaltiger06
I don't know I agree with Shermer. This other guy is obnoxious and JRE's being a little dumb too. I haven't been listening that long though.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:33 pm to SmackDaniels
I haven't watched many of his shows except for Rickson Gracie, Jean Jacques machado, and a few Alex jones ones.
Joes an interesting dude
Joes an interesting dude
Posted on 5/16/17 at 6:06 pm to lsucoonass
It is glorious...I'm digging it.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 6:49 pm to SmackDaniels
Besides rogan, I have no idea what those names mean
Posted on 5/16/17 at 6:55 pm to Rouge
Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson have convincing evidence that the great floods mentioned in several ancient texts, including the Bible, were related to a comet impact on the North American ice sheet about 11,000BC. The thermal energy of the comet melted the sheet and cause torrential flooding in North America and around the world. Shermer has called it pseudoscience and will not even entertain the evidence these guys have. Go back and listen to all of Hancock's appearances and he summarizes many of these concepts. There was a recent one last November with Hancock and Carlson showing drone footage and slides of some pretty impressive areas. It's an interesting theory and they have a lot of evidence to back it up.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:00 pm to SmackDaniels
Currently reading Fingerprints of the Gods and its pretty interesting
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:02 pm to Pledge
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Currently reading Fingerprints of the Gods and its pretty interesting
I'm going to have to go back and re-read that one and his new one, Magicians of the Gods. Both Hancock and Carlson are interesting guys. They like to blaze up with Rogan while they discuss this stuff with him too.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:07 pm to genuineLSUtiger
LINK
Pictures are worth a thousand words...
I posted this in a different thread. Slightly off topic, but it conveys the info. To be clear,
different impact events are illustrated below...
Tip of iceberg....
Keep in mind that the guy below has been accused of being a "climate change denier" by the true believers
That statement / position alone is pretty telling about the motivations of the current political movement (gradualists, uniformitarians...). There is no search for knowledge or truth from these folks. Some folks just want to be "right" to drive policy/funding/agendas...
Randall proposes cataclysmic cosmic impacts as the source of radical changes to the earth and part of cyclical process that is downplayed by mainstream science
LINK
Chevron forms created on a stream sandbar by local spring floods in Georgia, USA. The significant point is that these forms were produced by flowing water, not wind. After the flood subsides and the sand deposits dry out they will become subject to wind erosion and modification until they are stabilized by vegetation.
Chevron forms found on the southern tip of Madagascar. Were these formations created by wind or water? If the chevrons are formed of fine-grained wind transported sediment why is the line of demarcation at the distal end so distinct? What kind of aeolian process would produce features of this form and magnitude? The light colored deposits near the upper end of the chevrons are sand. This sand is undoubtedly being modified by wind, but this does not mean that the whole complex of lancet-like forms composing the chevrons were originally created by wind.
For scale...
The Burckle Crater impact is speculated to be Noah's flood...
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Small scale parabolic dune forms and hummocky topography produced by local flooding in Peachtree Creek, GA are clearly visible in this photograph. The open end of the parabola seen in the top center points in the up-current direction which was from right to left. Again, these sedimentary forms are initially produced by flowing water and later modified by wind.
Large scale parabolic dune forms on the Rolling Palouse landscape of SE Washington State. Note the large parabolic shaped dune in the foreground. It opens upcurrent, flow was from right to left (north to south). Compare the general morphology of this landscape with the water shaped forms in the previous photograph. This landscape is the product of wind AND water. A study of mega-scale paleohydrology reveals the scale-invariant, or self-similar nature of fluvial forms across a wide variety of spatial scales and signifies its value as a means of comparison and recognition of mega features whose origins it is not possible to witness directly.
Summary:
-comet impact on North American icecap, images above (cooling was the existing paradigm prior to this)
-massive, cataclysmic flooding (see Washington state photo above)
-sea levels rise, massive amount of water vapor injected into the atmophere leading to a greenhouse effect/ rapid warming
Multiple impacts of varying scale have occurred leading to cyclical change....
Randall does a better job of describing this (in great, well referenced length) than I am above in this overview. His site and vids are definitely worth looking into.
LINK
Pictures are worth a thousand words...
I posted this in a different thread. Slightly off topic, but it conveys the info. To be clear,
different impact events are illustrated below...
Tip of iceberg....
Keep in mind that the guy below has been accused of being a "climate change denier" by the true believers
That statement / position alone is pretty telling about the motivations of the current political movement (gradualists, uniformitarians...). There is no search for knowledge or truth from these folks. Some folks just want to be "right" to drive policy/funding/agendas...
quote:
While this knowledge is, at present, within the purview of a small but growing number of catastrophist geologists, astronomers, and other scientists, it has fallen completely by the wayside in the public discourse. For the present time politics dominates the discussion of global change, and there is a powerful political incentive to direct the discussion towards anthropogenic forcing to the exclusion of natural forces of change, for human behavior is subject to political control and natural forces of global change are not
Randall proposes cataclysmic cosmic impacts as the source of radical changes to the earth and part of cyclical process that is downplayed by mainstream science
LINK
quote:
An open letter to a critic on the matter of chevrons, megatsunamis and bolide impacts.
by Randall Carlson
quote:
I am addressing this response to one issue raised regarding remarks about possible mega-tsunami deposits that I brought up during the podcast. It is my impression after investing a fair amount of time researching this phenomenon that it warrants serious consideration, especially in light of what we have witnessed during the past decade, two tsunami induced mega-disasters in Japan and the Indian Ocean. Several comments were particularly dismissive, so I am setting down this small exposition, without malice, to demonstrate that the remarks made on The Joe Rogan Experience were preceded by a substantial amount of background research and thought. While the following remarks pertain to this one issue specifically, they are also relevant to the general attitude evinced in many of the other comments critical of something I said that are obviously being made by individuals whose preconceived opinions were incompatible with the information I presented and their objections were nothing more than a knee jerk emotional response rather than a reasoned critique with some actual thought behind it.
Chevron forms created on a stream sandbar by local spring floods in Georgia, USA. The significant point is that these forms were produced by flowing water, not wind. After the flood subsides and the sand deposits dry out they will become subject to wind erosion and modification until they are stabilized by vegetation.
Chevron forms found on the southern tip of Madagascar. Were these formations created by wind or water? If the chevrons are formed of fine-grained wind transported sediment why is the line of demarcation at the distal end so distinct? What kind of aeolian process would produce features of this form and magnitude? The light colored deposits near the upper end of the chevrons are sand. This sand is undoubtedly being modified by wind, but this does not mean that the whole complex of lancet-like forms composing the chevrons were originally created by wind.
For scale...
The Burckle Crater impact is speculated to be Noah's flood...
---
Small scale parabolic dune forms and hummocky topography produced by local flooding in Peachtree Creek, GA are clearly visible in this photograph. The open end of the parabola seen in the top center points in the up-current direction which was from right to left. Again, these sedimentary forms are initially produced by flowing water and later modified by wind.
Large scale parabolic dune forms on the Rolling Palouse landscape of SE Washington State. Note the large parabolic shaped dune in the foreground. It opens upcurrent, flow was from right to left (north to south). Compare the general morphology of this landscape with the water shaped forms in the previous photograph. This landscape is the product of wind AND water. A study of mega-scale paleohydrology reveals the scale-invariant, or self-similar nature of fluvial forms across a wide variety of spatial scales and signifies its value as a means of comparison and recognition of mega features whose origins it is not possible to witness directly.
Summary:
-comet impact on North American icecap, images above (cooling was the existing paradigm prior to this)
-massive, cataclysmic flooding (see Washington state photo above)
-sea levels rise, massive amount of water vapor injected into the atmophere leading to a greenhouse effect/ rapid warming
Multiple impacts of varying scale have occurred leading to cyclical change....
Randall does a better job of describing this (in great, well referenced length) than I am above in this overview. His site and vids are definitely worth looking into.
LINK
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:12 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Science Alert
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Ancient Stone Carvings Show a Comet Swarm Hitting Earth Around 10,950 BCE Around the time civilisation changed forever.
FIONA MACDONALD 22 APR 2017
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Researchers have translated famous ancient symbols in a temple in Turkey, and they tell the story of a devastating comet impact more than 13,000 years ago.
quote:
"I think this research, along with the recent finding of a widespread platinum anomaly across the North American continent virtually seal the case in favour of [a Younger Dryas comet impact]," lead researcher Martin Sweatman told Sarah Knapton from The Telegraph.
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The dating of these carvings also matches an ice core taken from Greenland, which pinpoints the Younger Dryas period as beginning around 10,890 BCE .
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:12 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Good stuff. Some of that drone footage they showed the last time both were on the podcast was fascinating to say the least.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:39 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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ThinePreparedAni
Nice work. Love it!
Posted on 5/16/17 at 8:31 pm to ThinePreparedAni
I'm back, three hours later...
This shite is wild. I have more questions than answers RN
This shite is wild. I have more questions than answers RN
Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:52 am to Mr. Hangover
I broke away. I will listen to it today.
Did it get ugly or were they pretty cordial with each other?
Hancock, Shermer seem to lose their cool.
Carlson seems like he would never get rattled.
Did it get ugly or were they pretty cordial with each other?
Hancock, Shermer seem to lose their cool.
Carlson seems like he would never get rattled.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:00 am to SmackDaniels
Those of you who have read Magicians of the Gods will I miss anything getting the Audible edition? (Images, graphs, etc)?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:09 am to SmackDaniels
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I broke away. I will listen to it today.
Did it get ugly or were they pretty cordial with each other?
Hancock, Shermer seem to lose their cool.
Carlson seems like he would never get rattled
Rogan is unbiased per usual.
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