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re: Joe Rogan apologizes for spreading misinformation about left wing arsonists starting fires
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:10 am to Byrdybyrd05
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:10 am to Byrdybyrd05
Antifa Oregon literally posted that they were starting the fires.
Then twitter removed their profile.
Then twitter removed their profile.
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 8:49 am
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Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:52 am to Byrdybyrd05
I have zero interest in what this guy says
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:01 am to OweO
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That's what I like about Rogan. He is willing to have anyone on his show. He will listen to what anyone has to say and then discuss. There are times when he understands why people have different views towards the same thing.
And he doesn't have some ego where he feels the need to be in control of an interview. He wants to hear it all. Try to understand that person. Give his listeners as much information as possible.. And if he gets something wrong, he isn't above admitting it.
We need that more than anything in today's world because everyone else has a narrative.
This is how JRE used to be. Joe took the Spotify bag and the suits control him now; IDGAF what Rogan says or has said. He is a de facto employee of Spotify now. Noone gives you $100 million and not control the product in some material way. Only the blindest of Rogan simps can't see that.
You think Joey Diaz or Edgy Bravo will be back on the podcast anytime soon? You are delusional as frick if you think the suits will allow that.
frick the employees of Spotify are trying to ban old episodes of the podcast.
It was a good run but JRE is dead. It will be nothing but controlled, censored content from here on out.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:23 am to AtlantaLSUfan
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Antifa Oregon literally posted that they were starting the fires.
Then twitter removed their profile.
Here is the tweet you’re referencing:
1. “Scarsdale Antifa” actually refers to Scarsdale, NY - a small, very wealthy, village of 17,000 people near NYC.
2. The response is from “Antifa Hamptons, NY” - again, not exactly an area known as a haven for anarchists and communists.
Both were identified as troll accounts years ago. It should be obvious to anyone who actually digs into this and thinks it through. Unfortunately, people believe everything they see on social media as long as it supports their viewpoint.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:33 am to jclem11
As I said earlier, very similar to Howard Stern when he joined SiriusXM. Both moves made each one lots of money and simultaneously snipped their balls off.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:35 am to magildachunks
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I don't think you realize how Conservative northern California and big parts of Oregon can be.
I know those people are up there.
The fact that the fire-starters are from the West Coast is just one data point here. The other data points are the existence of the arrests and the refusal of the media to talk seriously about them.
Also, contrast this with the media reaction to speculation that power lines had started a wildfire a few years ago. That is not really more or less plausible than the Antifa arson narrative, but the power line theory was so completely embraced by the media that it sent PG&E into bankruptcy within months.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:37 am to RealityTiger
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As I said earlier, very similar to Howard Stern when he joined SiriusXM. Both moves made each one lots of money and simultaneously snipped their balls off.
Yep. I'm not faulting Joe for taking the bag but you have to be honest with yourself and realize you are relinquishing creative control of your show in exchange for that $100M.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:48 am to jclem11
Joe knew the JRE had peaked and his best time to cash out was now. He was right and made his money while he still could.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:59 am to USMEagles
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Also, contrast this with the media reaction to speculation that power lines had started a wildfire a few years ago. That is not really more or less plausible than the Antifa arson narrative, but the power line theory was so completely embraced by the media that it sent PG&E into bankruptcy within months.
I’m not sure how you can say it’s “not really more or less plausible” - PG&E admitted fault and plead guilty to 84 counts of involuntary manslaughter.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:03 am to lostinbr
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I’m not sure how you can say it’s “not really more or less plausible” - PG&E admitted fault and plead guilty to 84 counts of involuntary manslaughter.
I think that was a knee-jerk reaction and PG&E's management did what they had to to get through a storm as quickly and painlessly as possible. It was not a hill worth dying on.
Step back and think about it, though. Had you heard of transmission lines causing fires before that? Had you heard of arson?
I'm not even 100% sold on the gender reveal party thing. Seems like another very tempting target, those suburban idiots with their annoying babies.
Maybe it happened, maybe the power line thing happened, but let's talk about everything that happened- not just the stuff where there's an easy boogeyman for the left wing to point at.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:29 am to jclem11
How much was he making before the Spotify deal? Must not have been as much as I imagined...I was surprised when he did it.
Ed:so some quick research estimates that he was making up to $800k per episode on the podcast...
If that’s true, I don’t get the Spotify deal...maybe he just wanted benefits
Ed:so some quick research estimates that he was making up to $800k per episode on the podcast...
If that’s true, I don’t get the Spotify deal...maybe he just wanted benefits
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 10:34 am
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:58 am to USMEagles
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I think that was a knee-jerk reaction and PG&E's management did what they had to to get through a storm as quickly and painlessly as possible. It was not a hill worth dying on.
I think avoiding bankruptcy due to baseless allegations is one of the few hills that is worth dying on.
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Step back and think about it, though. Had you heard of transmission lines causing fires before that? Had you heard of arson?
Yes, and yes.
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I'm not even 100% sold on the gender reveal party thing. Seems like another very tempting target, those suburban idiots with their annoying babies.
Maybe it happened, maybe the power line thing happened, but let's talk about everything that happened- not just the stuff where there's an easy boogeyman for the left wing to point at.
Look, I get it. Yes, there are a bazillion different things that can and do cause wildfires. Yes, the focus on electrical utilities in general is probably way too singular. Yes, there are forest management issues, urban planning issues, criminals, all of that.
But at some point, if you don’t believe the media, the fire investigators, the local police departments, the land management agencies, the FBI, PG&E, or the video showing the moment the El Dorado fire started - what sources do you trust?
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:22 am to jclem11
Heard a rumor yesterday that Spotify is gonna sign Stern when his deal with Sirius XM runs out.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:32 am to dawgfan24348
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Or just not spreading right wing fear mongering
Lol how is saying the majority of these fires are started by dumb humans and isn't global warming fear mongering?
It's the left wing propaganda that's fear mongering. Oh don't worry though they've got a new date til the end of times, it's 2050 now.
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 11:33 am
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:37 am to magildachunks
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don't think you realize how Conservative northern California and big parts of Oregon can be.
Why would conservatives set fires to spark the global warming debate and move people wanting to push for more green energy that can't keep californias lights on regularly.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:39 am to Byrdybyrd05
Arsonists have been starting fires.
The media is trying to fight it because it hurts their narrative, but it's fricking true. There may not be an official "ANTIFA" membership list out there, but arsonists have been arrested in Oregon, California, and Utah.
ABC News
FoxNews
The media is trying to fight it because it hurts their narrative, but it's fricking true. There may not be an official "ANTIFA" membership list out there, but arsonists have been arrested in Oregon, California, and Utah.
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SALEM, Ore. -- An Oregon man was charged with arson in connection to a raging wildfire that destroyed hundreds of homes, one of the blazes gripping the West Coast with death and devastation.
Michael Jarrod Bakkela, 41, was jailed on two charges of arson, 15 counts of criminal mischief and 14 counts of reckless endangering for a fire that was set Tuesday in the Phoenix area in southern Oregon
ABC News
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Authorities arrest 4 in connection to possible arson, fires along West Coast
Four have been arrested on suspicion of arson in West Coast areas already under seige from major destructive and deadly blazes, according to reports.
As wildfires continue to rage across three states, police investigated separate incidents near existing wildfires. Two men in Washington state, one man in Oregon and one woman in California are facing charges, according to the Daily Wire.
The latest reports suggest that at least 20 people have died in California, eight in Oregon and one in Washington state as firefighters struggle to contain already deadly fires.
FoxNews
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Ashland, Ore., Police Chief Tighe O'Meara announced Thursday that a criminal investigation was opened into the cause of the Almeda fire calling the circumstances around the fire 'suspicious'.
The fire sparked in Ashland Tuesday and although it mostly spared the Oregon Shakespeare Festival town, the blaze has killed two people and destroyed hundreds of homes.
“We have good reason to believe that there was a human element to it,” O’Meara said, according to Reuters. “We’re going to pursue it as a criminal investigation until we have reason to believe that it was otherwise.”
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Anita Esquivel was arrested in Monterey County, Calif., after starting fires near Highway 101, though the number of fires was not released, according to KION.
The district attorney dismissed suggestions that Esquivel had ties to far-left groups, such as Antifa.
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Two unidentified men were arrested in connection to fires in Washington: One man allegedly started a fire on State Route 167 at Meridian, while another man was detained a day later allegedly starting a fire at State Route 512, the Daily Mail reported.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:48 am to goofball
I hear you but just Google arsonist wildfire 200X. Arsonists have been setting wildfires for years. Starting a fire is no way to determine whether they are or are not connected to ANTIFA. Plenty of just straight up lunatics out there.
Interestingly, I stumbled across one article from NYT while googling that said of the men was sentenced to death for starting a Ca wildfire that killed 5 fire fighters.
Interestingly, I stumbled across one article from NYT while googling that said of the men was sentenced to death for starting a Ca wildfire that killed 5 fire fighters.
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 11:52 am
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:53 am to jclem11
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was a good run but JRE is dead. It will be nothing but controlled, censored content from here on out.
I said this, not long after the last Alex Jones podcast when Rogan stopped going live that he was compromised. The edits started and the podcast died then. He was preparing for the Spotify deal.
Give him credit for building what he did but it's dead now and the gatekeeping has commenced, he was getting too big, this was how to control him
Posted on 9/20/20 at 12:29 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Suck that Spotify dick. He’ll have trannys on the show soon too
Posted on 9/20/20 at 1:33 pm to goofball
quote:I drive both of these daily and they would both be idiotic places to try to start wildfires. They're in the middle of the metro area, for starters. We have a lot of junkies and homeless crazies here. They start fires all the fricking time. Not saying antifa is or isn't starting fires but nothing I've seen posted seems to indicate that they're doing it around here.
Two unidentified men were arrested in connection to fires in Washington: One man allegedly started a fire on State Route 167 at Meridian, while another man was detained a day later allegedly starting a fire at State Route 512,
The "lots of liberals live on the west coast so therefore every intentional fire set on the west coast was set by liberals" theory is one of the flimsier logic trains I've seen posted on the OT.
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