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re: JK Rowling reveals Voldemort is a nationalist and the Harry Potter books deal with racism

Posted on 12/22/19 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by Tigerbait357
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 9:32 pm to
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Dobby is the GOAT


Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 9:34 pm to
I didn’t realize this needed that be said. I read the books, it was obvious. Slaves, the whole mudbloods/pure bloods thing, inequality, and of course totalitarianism- all front and center issues in every book.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:04 pm to
She's bending the knee to the SJW terrorists
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:07 pm to
She has let herself get guilted a little too much for not having a “diverse” enough group of kids.

But this isn’t an example of that.

Her claiming Hermoine was always black or whatever was bull crap. She had total veto power over casting decisions for her movies. So...
This post was edited on 12/22/19 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:09 pm to
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Never read one or saw the movies.


Why do people say things like this as though it’s something to be proud of?
Posted by Mr Personality
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:09 pm to
Didn’t McCaig troll Rowling?
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:13 pm to
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Her claiming Hermoine was always black or whatever was bull crap. She had total veto power over casting decisions for her movies. So...


I’m too tired to look it up, but to my recollection, she never said that Hermione was black; she said that she never gave Hermione’s race in the books, so people freaking out about a black girl being cast to play the role were being petty bigots.
Posted by volod
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:24 pm to
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Rowling has described wizard villain Lord Voldemort as a ‘nationalist’ and says her Harry Potter books deal with racism.



Why are we still discussing this woman. It's very obvious she's just pandering to leftists. Her own fans (a large sector of the fandom) admit it.
Posted by rantfan
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:26 pm to
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Posted by bbrownso
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:30 pm to
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she said that she never gave Hermione’s race in the books

She never explicitly said it but:



I think she said it elsewhere that the best actress was black and that's why she was cast in that play that followed the films. That's fine if you just say that; that's how casting works. But Rowling seems to consistently try to virtue signal for attention and it's annoying.
Posted by rpr4695
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:33 pm to
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Obviously those themes are deeply embedded within the books.


When you start your thought out with "obviously," I'm going to immediately call bullshite.
Posted by NPComb
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:34 pm to
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JK Rowling reveals Voldemort is a nationalist and the Harry Potter books deal with racism


DUH
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Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:37 pm to
I guess "witches and wizards" are a race in the Harry Potter world?

I can see the "racist" angle in that case, but calling them "nationalist" makes no sense whatsoever. They want to take over the whole world. That isn't "nationalist" at all.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:39 pm to
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Slaves, the whole mudbloods/pure bloods thing, inequality, and of course totalitarianism-


None of this equates to nationalism.
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:50 pm to
Rowling writes good novels under the pen name of Robert Galbraith
Posted by volod
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:53 pm to
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She never explicitly said it but:

?

I think she said it elsewhere that the best actress was black and that's why she was cast in that play that followed the films. That's fine if you just say that; that's how casting works. But Rowling seems to consistently try to virtue signal for attention and it's annoying.


Exclusion is not an excuse for poor planning.

If she REALLY wanted Hermione to be black, she had over 7 films to assert that "this character is black".

I dont care about the race of a fictional character. But I hate it when race is be used a cheap gimmick to virtue signal. There comes a point where you have to ask, "how much of this is implied vs retroactive revision?"
Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:57 pm to
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I can see the "racist" angle in that case, but calling them "nationalist" makes no sense whatsoever. They want to take over the whole world. That isn't "nationalist" at all.




Nationalist is a word they use when they can’t call you racist.

And of course Voldemort was a racist. That’s the entire premise for the war. This doesn’t change anything about the series.

She’s just covering her arse for saying people who cut their penises off aren’t women this week.

It’s insane that she feels the need to apologize for it. Stand your ground woman. We can be kind, understanding, and gracious to Trans people without accepting insanity or mental illness.
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:05 pm to
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I dont care about the race of a fictional character. But I hate it when race is be used a cheap gimmick to virtue signal. There comes a point where you have to ask, "how much of this is implied vs retroactive revision?"



This last week I watched the new Lady and the Tramp and Christmas Carol on FX. They’re both fiction at the turn of the century and shoehorned mixed race couples in there. I have 0 problems with mixed marriages at all but it’s just weird to have it depicted so much in historical fiction when it would be very rare before the last 50 years.

When I see it in a commerical today it’s usually virtue signaling, but who cares? It reflects a larger proportion of society than reality but it’s just a commerical.

Placing it in Victorian England or early 1900s in the south is just pandering.

That being said, we’ve had tons of white folk depict people that were Hispanic, Asian, or Arab throughout film history. It’s not a big deal but it is eye roll inducing.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:15 pm to
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My take on the books was just the opposite. Voldemort reminded me of Obama and the Dems were his dedicated minions. He was making executive orders with his pen (wand) and his phone in order to fundamentally change and rule this country.




Obama wasn't even President when the final book was released.
Posted by BaDoing
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:20 pm to
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When's the last time she published a book


When's the last time you counted out a billion dollars? She's too busy counting dollars to write.
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