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re: Jeff Daniels speech about the greatest countries in the world

Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:15 am to
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7465 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:15 am to
Adults old and young have really lost perspective about how good we have it here.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32167 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:46 am to
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The Germans and Scandinavian countries standard of living is equal to a better than almost all American states.


They live under the protection umbrella of the United States, and thus can waste their money on frivolous things.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4628 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:52 am to
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This is just wrong. The vast majority of EU countries have all those things protected in their constitutions.


Yes they do - kind of.

The unspoken difference is that those "freedoms" are given to the people by the government. If government gives it, government can take it away. See Canada.

In the USA, those "freedoms" are inalienable, given to us by our Creator. Government has no authority to take them from us.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4628 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:59 am to
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You are way way off bro. The Germans and Scandinavian countries standard of living is equal to a better than almost all American states. Their income is less but they have free healthcare, free college education, 4 weeks paid vacation, often free or subsidized housing etc. etc. etc. that along would add more than $75,000 a year to my income right now. Go visit these places and see for yourself, they are significantly happier and feel sorry for us. They they were are all idiots


Clearly you've never traveled to Europe.

Europeans pay 55+% in income taxes plus 20-30% VAT (Value Added Tax) on all consumer goods. Most Europeans live in shoebox sized apartments and the concept of land ownership is foreign (excuse the pun) to them. Private cars are a luxury; most take public transportation to and from work.

Free college? Great, until you find out that you are told if you can go to college in the first place. If you do get in, then you are told what you will study.

A middle class European lives about the same as an American at the defined poverty level and maybe a little worse.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51951 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 12:03 pm to
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Europeans pay 55+% in income taxes plus 20-30% VAT (Value Added Tax) on all consumer goods.

I'll never understand the mindset that we should give more of our money to the government so they can decide how to spend it and how much of it we'll get back
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11579 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 3:08 pm to
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In the USA, those "freedoms" are inalienable, given to us by our Creator. Government has no authority to take them from us.
Lol of course it can (and does, pretty regularly). You think God made the commercial speech and obscenity rules?
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11579 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 3:09 pm to
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Clearly you've never traveled to Europe.


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A middle class European lives about the same as an American at the defined poverty level and maybe a little worse.
Not even close. Clearly you've never spent time with anyone who lives at the defined poverty level in the US.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 3:47 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27697 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 4:19 pm to
Something seems off about that chart…
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18914 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 4:48 pm to
It’s theater dumb arse
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4918 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:24 pm to
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In the USA, those "freedoms" are inalienable, given to us by our Creator. Government has no authority to take them from us.

What a dumbass comment.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
10840 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:33 pm to
Tell me you've never read the bill of rights, without telling me you've never read the bill of rights.

Globetrotter747 will go first.

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What a dumbass comment.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4918 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:40 pm to
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Tell me you’ve never read the bill of rights, without telling me you’ve never read the bill of rights.

Globetrotter747 will go first.

Japanese Internment during World War II
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 5:59 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
118109 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:40 pm to
I don't know anything about a speech by Jeff Daniels or who said what, but this is still the greatest god damn country on the face of the earth.

Even with the amount of lil bitches we have living here.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47583 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 6:10 pm to
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You are way way off bro. The Germans and Scandinavian countries standard of living is equal to a better than almost all American states. Their income is less but they have free healthcare, free college education, 4 weeks paid vacation, often free or subsidized housing etc. etc. etc. that along would add more than $75,000 a year to my income right now.

Horse shite!
I’ve spent time in Sweden, the best of the Scandanavian countries, and they are poor compared to us. I can’t find a VRBO that I want to stay in; it’s like staying in a dorm room. I got one that was up to American standards. The other ones had beds that was a thin mattress on wood. The furniture is cheap IKEA shite. They don’t live like Americans, brothers, not even close.

It’s like that all over Europe, and I’ve been to a lot of places there. Charming countries, but you will live a much narrower, less affluent life in ALL of them. And BTW, their health care sucks. You can’t pick your doctor; you get whatever unmotivated flunky they assign to you. You have to wait months for procedures that in America you would never tolerate that for. Our health care sucks, but it’s better than theirs, unless you are a deadbeat, in which case theirs rules!
Posted by Larry_Hotdogs
Texas
Member since Jun 2019
1629 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:11 pm to
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You are way way off bro.


frick outta here. VAT and 55-60% income tax in a homogeneous population is free and better than the USA? Scandinavian food sucks.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11579 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:20 pm to
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Tell me you've never read the bill of rights, without telling me you've never read the bill of rights.

Globetrotter747 will go first.
Tell me where the words "inalienable" and "Creator" are in the Bill of Rights.

AwesomeSauce will go first.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75139 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:24 pm to
Aaron Sorkin wouldn't know a good country if it was quickly but sarcastically spoke in front of him and was borderline humorous every fifteen minutes.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11579 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:29 pm to
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Something seems off about that chart…

What seems off? It's straight facts.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11579 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:45 pm to
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Most Europeans live in shoebox sized apartments and the concept of land ownership is foreign (excuse the pun) to them.
Wrong
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Free college? Great, until you find out that you are told if you can go to college in the first place. If you do get in, then you are told what you will study.

Wrong
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A middle class European lives about the same as an American at the defined poverty level and maybe a little worse.

Exceptionally wrong

Sorry your daddy-paid summer abroad made you an even bigger dumbass.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 9:46 pm
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
25724 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:12 pm to
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Most Europeans live in shoebox sized apartments and the concept of land ownership is foreign (excuse the pun) to them.
Wrong





Either you've never been to Europe or you're consciously lying. The norm for the European middle class is multiple generations living in 6-800 sq ft house/apt. They are awed by our standard of living.
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