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re: Jeep Wagoneer debacle
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:51 pm to Porpus
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:51 pm to Porpus
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the eurotrash have always profoundly misunderstood Chrysler. You can't run that organization like Volkswagen or Fiat.
Uhhh…Chrysler introduced the hellcat and all of its variations under Eurotrash ownership. Hellcat is the antithesis of European style.
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:01 pm to Higgysmalls
Went to lunch with a coworker a week ago that has one. Extremely nice but I would never pay 100k for any vehicle let alone a jeep product.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:12 pm to Jester
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Bruh, Toyota isn't magical. They have a pretty solid reliability history, but are notoriously milquetoast and outdated from design and technology standpoints.
I understand that point of view. To me, a vehicle is merely transportation from point A to B. I want to do it in the most reliable and economical way possible. I'll give up air-conditioned seats for jumping in my 2012 Tunda with 250k on it and just turning the key with no worry about anything. Knowing it'll go 300k + with no issues is the most important factor for me. I despise vehicle payments, sometimes necessary,, but I want to limit having one as much as possible.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:13 pm to Higgysmalls
Where did you get those numbers? Are they all sitting at the factory bc they aren’t sitting at the dealerships.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:17 pm to Higgysmalls
Over priced Tahoe… 
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:23 pm to Higgysmalls
I’ve rode in one several times, while super nice, it’s still a jeep and not worth that price
Eta: it’s like the corvette dorks that think they are driving a sports car
Eta: it’s like the corvette dorks that think they are driving a sports car
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:27 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:
Where did you get those numbers? Are they all sitting at the factory bc they aren’t sitting at the dealerships.
Not sure where he got that number specifically but the trades have been talking about the glut of basically all Jeeps for months. You can try searching "Jeep market day supply". You used to be able to search the vehicle and "MDS" but since multi-displacement systems have become widespread you will get more results for that now.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:28 pm to jordan21210
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financing 5% anything over 36 months
I bought Silverado in March.
60 months
3%
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:31 pm to Obtuse1
I’m not arguing that but I am seriously questioning a 500+ day supply.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:31 pm to greenbean
quote:Because Subaru also exists.
Why anyone would buy a vehicle other than Toyota is beyond me.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:36 pm to Higgysmalls
That's gonna make the money they're having to pay striking union workers put them out of business
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:37 pm to Higgysmalls
Any time I see someone driving one of those I know they’re a sucker
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:39 pm to roadGator
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It doesn’t look like full size. Too low to the ground for me.
then you're blinder than the black lady w/ coke bottle glasses in My Cousin Vinny.
Here are it's dimensions.
Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer - 215" L x 84" W x 76" H
Wagoneer L/Grand Wagoneer L - 227" L x 84" W x 80" H
for comparison
Chevy Tahoe - 211" L x 81" W x 76" H
Chevy Suburban - 226" L x 81" W x 76" H
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:05 pm to LSUnation78
quote:Sounds like the marque a Christian would choose, Luke.
Also, frick chrystler.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 3:14 pm to tokenBoiler
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Because Subaru also exists.
Yes, but we're not lesbians.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 4:24 pm to Higgysmalls
too expensive and didn’t make it look like old school wagoners enough.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 4:37 pm to jordan21210
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Uhhh…Chrysler introduced the hellcat and all of its variations under Eurotrash ownership. Hellcat is the antithesis of European style.
IDK about that trim level, but the Charger overall was a post-Daimler / pre-Fiat release.
I wasn't really thinking about the design of the products, though. I just think that Daimler, Fiat, etc. have tended to underestimate just how down-market Chrysler products have always been perceived in America.
Americans understand that Chrysler does some great things, but they also approach those brands with a certain hesitancy.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 4:45 pm to rowbear1922
quote:
I’ve rode in one
Jesus Christ .
Posted on 10/15/23 at 4:47 pm to tokenBoiler
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Because Subaru also exists.
I realize that Subaru has a fanatical fanbase, especially amongst the population of women who have lickher licenses.. and i actually did a double take the other day to look at a new Outback Wilderness that was super-nice.. but are they really more reliable than Toyotas ? I genuinely dont know .
Posted on 10/15/23 at 4:53 pm to Privateer 2007
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I bought Silverado in March. 60 months 3%
Okay cool. I bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee at 1.9% in February, but auto incentives change from month to month, model to model, and trim to trim. Just because you got a good long term rate on a Silverado doesn’t mean Jeep is offering that on Grand Wagoneers.
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