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re: Jeep to lay off 1,300+ in US; move Cherokee SUV production to Mexico

Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39949 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:46 pm to
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Why are we linking NAFTA when it was replaced a few years ago?


You know why
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25071 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 12:59 pm to
The mistake the U.S. made was becoming so reliant on China for production. We should have stayed home and worked on developing more industry in South and Central America.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32635 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:04 pm to
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Stellantis is pretty short on electric vehicles at the moment and it's promised a $31.6 billion investment into electrifying its lineup by 2025.



For $31.6 billion they should just partner with VW or GM and use their tech. They are both ahead of the game on developing scalable EV architecture even if their actual EV’s are somewhat limited in appeal. Honda is working with GM and getting their tech. But I’m sure an infusion of cash from Stellantis would still be welcome in exchange for Jeep and Ram using their EV architecture.

Toyota might need a partner. Maybe Stellantis can work with them.

No way Stellantis can roll out a bunch of in-house developed EV’s to replace their ICE lineup by 2025. Maybe 2035…..
This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 1:05 pm
Posted by BigGreenTiger
Member since Mar 2022
376 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:11 pm to
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Ah, democratic policies. Got it.


pure capitalism, baby
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:17 pm to


This(among others) is what had hollowed out manufacturing in our nation.

frick the people who supported and voted for this.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79738 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:34 pm to
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31 billion investment to electric cars... Imagine how expensive all cars will be in the near future. It takes alot of changes/money to create all these new ideas. It will get passed to us, and the vehicles will be too much to afford


Who needs a car? Just get on government transportation to go from your government housing to your government job. Feeling sick? No problem we have government run healthcare too.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79738 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:36 pm to
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pure capitalism, baby


Spending billions to appease government while shutting down a plant and people losing jobs isn’t capitalism.

In the free market electric vehicles wouldn’t need to be subsidized if people were ready to move to that.



This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282540 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:37 pm to
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pure capitalism, baby


Good. Union auto workers are overpaid and foreign workers produce more.

This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 1:39 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:40 pm to
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This(among others) is what had hollowed out manufacturing in our nation.

frick the people who supported and voted for this.

Sorry that you hate freedom and prefer wealth redistribution instead. Commie.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79738 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:41 pm to
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This(among others) is what had hollowed out manufacturing in our nation. frick the people who supported and voted for this.


I could be wrong, but in 1994 it basically got rid of tariffs on our exports to Mexico and canada. And Mexico and Canda are our largest trading partners not named China.

Meaning Mexico buys more of our shite then almost every other country.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:44 pm to
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I could be wrong, but in 1994 it basically got rid of tariffs on our exports to Mexico and canada. And Mexico and Canda are our largest trading partners not named China.

Meaning Mexico buys more of our shite then almost every other country.

Yes it created freedom and lowered prices dramatically. Has really helped Mexico to the point where illegal immigration is primarily from other countries.

But these people would rather make American consumers pay more so they can redistribute that wealth to pay for inefficient lower-level factory work within the US. Completely makes sense.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
31652 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:44 pm to
Cherokee sales are down because MSRP went way up

Not sure why that is confusing for anybody

Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
30920 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:45 pm to
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Well yeah, why would people buy a piece of shite vehicle?



SIL has one and I tell her as much as possible that it isn't a real Jeep.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79738 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:51 pm to
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Has really helped Mexico to the point where illegal immigration is primarily from other countries.


This is true. As of now Mexicans are a small fraction of the people crossing when they used to be the most.

And Mexico isn’t one of the poorest countries, it’s more in the middle somewhere.
Posted by Trucker21
77044
Member since Sep 2022
189 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 2:05 pm to
All that union money that goes to Democrats and that's the thanks they get.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 2:16 pm to
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Ah, democratic policies. Got it.
Didn't Trump "rewrite" NAFTA? One of his supposed signature achievements.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97010 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 2:22 pm to
My wife has a new Grand Cherokee Summit Reserve edition. Nice vehicle
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97010 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 2:25 pm to
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31 billion investment to electric cars... Imagine how expensive all cars will be in the near future. It takes alot of changes/money to create all these new ideas. It will get passed to us, and the vehicles will be too much to afford


What are they gonna do when nobody buys them?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282540 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 2:25 pm to
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And Mexico isn’t one of the poorest countries, it’s more in the middle somewhere.


True. Economically its close to many Eastern European nations.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
43397 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 2:26 pm to
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Well yeah, why would people buy a piece of shite vehicle?


Because they are patriotic folks? Hopefully, they price them according to Mexican soccer mom's ability to afford.
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