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re: January 1, 2025: Multiple casualties on Bourbon Street after terrorist attack..

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Posted by SWLA92
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:02 am to
Possibly. Knowing now he places the IEDs wouldn’t he have saw the Manlift and known he would of been blocked in a vehicle?
Posted by chaso
clinton ms.
Member since Aug 2006
3291 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:02 am to
Well are you going to "Bollard Canal St.? We have to focus on the terrorist in America or Anybody else that hates America or we will all be wearing inflatable ball suits
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:02 am to
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This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 11:42 pm
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15297 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:02 am to
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Which seems kinda odd that he didn't inspect his route prior and know that thing was there.



yeah I agree. I'm going to assume that he just wasn't all there in the head and that prevented him from fully maximizing the preparation for this.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:02 am to
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Louisiana does not have immunity for personal injury caused by the city, for instance.


This is true. But there is no mechanism to make a city pay a judgement. You know who is famous (infamous) for not paying judgements - New Orleans
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130286 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:03 am to
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There was a cop car blocking the road. What more do you think would have stopped this? The guy hooked at the last minute.



For the present case, nothing.

LNCH is saying they should do nothing further to prevent a future action like this.

My argument is that now that a flaw in security has been exposed, they should at a minimum put up sidewalk bollards. Not doing so could expose them to some level of liability as it would be grossly negligent to do absolutely nothing.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15297 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:03 am to
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Possibly. Knowing now he places the IEDs wouldn’t he have saw the Manlift and known he would of been blocked in a vehicle?



Also a good question.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130286 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:04 am to
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This is true. But there is no mechanism to make a city pay a judgement. You know who is famous (infamous) for not paying judgements - New Orleans



I am well aware. I would never take such a case.

I had one case early in my career where the City agreed to pay $1,000.00. They did not pay it for 10 years.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:04 am to
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LNCH is saying they should do nothing further to prevent a future action like this.


Not installing bollards is totally the same as do nothing. Totally
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70723 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:05 am to
I don't know how much of the lift was blocking the road but earlier in the thread, someone theorized that maybe his hood flew up from earlier impacts so he couldn't see and hit the lift.

Either way, he wasn't going much further due to construction.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 11:08 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130286 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:05 am to
What are you arguing they should do, specifically.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41092 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:05 am to
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As I recall, protections exclude "gross negligence" as well as willfull, malicious, or intentional acts by city employees.


Unless the city just went full anarchy and disbanded all law enforcement, I can't see any theory of gross negligence being successful.

Also, LA Rev Stat § 9:2798.1 Subsection B states:

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Liability shall not be imposed on public entities or their officers or employees based upon the exercise or performance or the failure to exercise or perform their policymaking or discretionary acts when such acts are within the course and scope of their lawful powers and duties.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41092 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:07 am to
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Which seems kinda odd that he didn't inspect his route prior and know that thing was there.


I wonder if the hood flew up because of crashing into it or before.

If the hood flew up prior, then he may not have been able to see where it was, even if he knew it was there.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:07 am to
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I don't know how much of the lift was blocking the road but I someone theorized that maybe his hood flew up from earlier impacts so he couldn't see and hit the lift.


There seems like enough space for the truck to have passed it, but I wouldn't doubt his view was obscured either by the crowd/debris/hood etc
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:08 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89131 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:08 am to
quote:

What are you arguing they should do, specifically.


I dunno, but kneejerk feel good nothing isn't it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130286 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:09 am to
There are 2300+ citing references to that statute, but I already know that "Willful" misconduct is an exception.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130286 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:09 am to
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I dunno,


Hmmm
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20292 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:10 am to
Or during the crash the detonators flew around the car and he couldn’t grab them / find them. He was flying down the street Im sure his shite went everywhere.

Also curious where the IEDs were and how viable they were. Maybe he did try to detonate and they failed.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89131 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:10 am to
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Hmmm


hmmm what? You want to just throw shite at the wall in the name of doing something, I'm not sorry for not agreeing with that,
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