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re: Jackson, MS man indicted murder 1st after killing 17yo trying to steal his Lexus

Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by TigernMS12
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:33 pm to
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What's a high dollar murder defense go for these days? $250,000.00?


Really depends on a lot of things. Just through trial or until all appeals are done? Is there going to be a lot of experts your going to have to hire for trial? You can honestly spend as much as you want though. You can get second opinions on every analysis of physical evidence the State collected (ballistics/DNA/etc.) but of course, you pay for it.

50-100K is a good number for trial depending on the experts/tests that are required.
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 8:35 pm
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:34 pm to
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immnot going to jump all down that rabbit hole... there isn't a single word about a knife any any of the stories I've read yet. No reason to start throwing that around.... if anything bring up whatever brick or rock he was using to break the Lexus window.


I'm just saying, such details get left out of a grand jury proceeding but will come out at trial. How many career criminals do you know of that wander around routinely without some sort of knife or gun on them? Just guessing at the odds here.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:34 pm to
I know a guy who spent $500,000 on lawyers for a divorce.
Posted by UF
Florida
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:35 pm to
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Also, it's not illegal to brandish a weapon,



Wrong.


Provide link to statute.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:36 pm to
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I know a guy who spent $500,000 on lawyers for a divorce.


That's just dumb. Not saying the guy he hired wasn't good, and I obviously know nothing of his divorce, but I'd be willing to bet he could have gotten the same outcome with a handful of competent, experienced lawyers for a fraction of the cost.
Posted by RicFlairWhoooooo
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:36 pm to
The video is embedded in the fundraiser page. Looks pretty cut and dry to me

LINK
Posted by LSU Tiger Bob
South
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:37 pm to
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Except that a jury from Jackson won't exactly be "peers" of law-abiding tax payers.
And even if he is acquitted, his life is basically ruined.


Understand your point. However, I do believe the jury pool will be a cross section of the citizens of the 1st Judicial District of the County. Not everyone lives in Section 8 housing in the district.

Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:38 pm to
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Also, it's not illegal to brandish a weapon,


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Wrong.


I'd love for you find the me the MS statute on this and educate me.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:38 pm to
I'm sure the state legislature, the mayor, and the city council all made sure before anything else, to make sure the public defenders office is adequately funded right? I mean all of these young urban youths being targeted time after time unjustly, I'm sure they want these offenders in Jackson to get fair counsel before getting thrown away..... so Mr Wayne should have a bang-up team working his case with war chest.
Posted by tigerbutt
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:39 pm to
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There is a struggle and both men are apparently fighting over the gun. McDonald crumples to the ground when shots are fired as the rounds struck him in the upper torso.

One f'd up jury to convict this man.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:40 pm to
looks like a clear fight for the gun
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:40 pm to
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fricking sucks... dude been busting his arse moving up the work latter his entire life doing what he can for his family and every single penny he has amast most likely is about to be stripped away over this little shite stain on society


agreed...it is really shitty how fast you can lose everything that matters in life. 30 seconds before that happened, he was probably just wondering what he would have for lunch or some other normal shite. now, there is absolutely no way he can come out without being ruined at best.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:41 pm to
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Not saying the guy he hired wasn't good, and I obviously know nothing of his divorce, but I'd be willing to bet he could have gotten the same outcome with a handful of competent, experienced lawyers for a fraction of the cost.



The man's hourly rate was crazy. I agree with you 100%. People feel like they have to have "the best" though when it comes to these things, try to protect themselves from getting screwed by other people..but in the process, end up screwing themselves over.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:41 pm to
I saw that earlier but my phone is fricking yo and I couldn't get it to play.. keep getting error... oh well I'll watch it later... thanks
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5695 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:42 pm to
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I'm sure the state legislature, the mayor, and the city council all made sure before anything else, to make sure the public defenders office is adequately funded right? I mean all of these young urban youths being targeted time after time unjustly, I'm sure they want these offenders in Jackson to get fair counsel before getting thrown away..... so Mr Wayne should have a bang-up team working his case with war chest.


I actually interned in that office quite some time ago. The legislature sets the funding of all PD's in the state. There is actually only two full time PD offices in the state (Hinds Co. and somewhere on the coast). It was a pretty shitty building they were in, but the attorneys were actually very dedicated and from what I saw pretty good. Personally, I'd hire private, but mainly because I wouldn't be one of 300 cases on my attorneys plate. Contrary to popular belief, PDs aren't all bad attorneys, in fact, one of the best I've been around is a PD. They just don't have the time to spend on your case as a private attorney will.
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 8:47 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:43 pm to
How do you not get what happened?
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:44 pm to
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The man's hourly rate was crazy. I agree with you 100%. People feel like they have to have "the best" though when it comes to these things, try to protect themselves from getting screwed by other people..but in the process, end up screwing themselves over.


Seriously. Even if he got 100K less than he did in the settlement by going with a cheaper attorney, if that attorney only charged 250K (which is still ridiculous for a divorce for the average person) he would have actually gotten 150K more in his pocket.
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:47 pm to
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One f'd up jury to convict this man.


Indicted, not convicted.

A grand jury is only allowed to hear the prosecution's side.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:48 pm to
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Indicted, not convicted.

A grand jury is only allowed to hear the prosecution's side.



And it's only a finding of PC which is a far cry from reasonable doubt.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:48 pm to
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How do you not get what happened?
explain yourself if you can?

I'm piecing this together slowely but surely the best way I can.... I don't get what you are implying.

I hope you don't think it's cut and dry and we have all the facts are you.

I'm trying to not jump to any conclusion although I've stated early and often I have a bias and i know the character of only one individual involved so I'm relying a bit on that as well.
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