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re: Ivermectin: Cancer killer Are you aware of these studies?

Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by Boudreauboudreaugoly
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:11 pm to
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My oncologist doesn’t believe that there’s enough evidence that it’s helpful.


He also believes that it won’t make him any money since it is quite inexpensive. Also, if it does work inexpensively then he will basically be out of a job.
Posted by Chief Hinge
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:14 pm to
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If he chooses to prescribe it to me I’ll take it.


Do you not see the problem with this line of thinking?
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:18 pm to
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Bending the truth a wee bit, I see.


Stretching the truth may help with Peyronie’s which is allegedly caused by excessive masterbation.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:20 pm to
Took 'em all, and I'd do it again.

That has 0 to do with anything you posted.

You are embarrassing yourself as ignorant and gullible, and you can't answer a direct question.

You posted a 5 year-old "report" as fact as if it is groundbreaking info.
You're gullible AF.

Posted by Brown Dog
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:25 pm to
It does prevent heart worms in dogs.
Posted by andwesway
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:33 pm to
You folks with you "ivermectin cures cancer" obvioulsy have never had to personally deal with a potentially life ending illness. When you do and your doctor prescribes XYZ, you will take XYZ and hope like hell it works for you like it has for others.
Posted by HarryBalzack
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:36 pm to
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Also, if it does work inexpensively then he will basically be out of a job.
Wouldn't the opposite be true in a free market? Seems like if it worked and he prescribed it, then people would be flocking to him to be their oncologist.

ETA: or they would be getting the FDA to make it by prescription only.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 5:38 pm
Posted by DocOnc
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:37 pm to
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LINK

I don’t know how many people are aware of this and I’d like to try to find out because it really clouds the argument against ivermectin use.
This isn’t just about Covid or river blindness or parasitic worms.


That study is a summary of cell lines that show inhibition from ivermectin. None show any effect in humans. Before one prescribes medications for patients, safety and effectiveness need to be shown in clinical trials involving patients with the illness targeted. Many drugs have shown effectiveness in cell lines and do not pan out when used in actual patients. I do not believe you will find any trials in cancer patients that show a significant response rate.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:44 pm to
You're gonna have to dumb it down for him.

He can't read a calender.
Words with vowels are gonna be a stretch.
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:46 pm to
I'm excited to see some baws who listened to a podcast argue with (I presume) an oncologist that ivermectin cures cancer
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:47 pm to
Several years back, I came across a blog written by a guy named Joe Tippens. He'd been being treated for small cell lung cancer and had reached the end of the road. Instead of tapping out, he'd read somewhere about ivermectin but how you shouldn't mention it to your oncologist because they always dissuade you from using it.

With nothing to lose, he used it and it shrunk and eventually destroyed all the tumors. After his oncologist was shocked on his progress, he told him he has been using ibermectin and his doctor was “oh you…”. Then he made the blog and the doc was probably contacted by the cabal who is supposed to stop you from using ivermectin at all costs…
Here's the link. I have it saved in my bookmarks. LINK
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:55 pm to
Good grief....

Im not reading your link; it literally proves nothing.

Anecdotal (look it up) evidence is not a basis for treatment.

"Aunt Mert smoked 3 packs of Pall Malls erryday and she never got no cancers"


There's a better chance prayer cured him, tbh.


Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:57 pm to
This article is from 2017 and well before the political arena of covid-19.

https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711

quote:

Over the past decade, the global scientific community have begun to recognize the unmatched value of an extraordinary drug, ivermectin, that originates from a single microbe unearthed from soil in Japan. Work on ivermectin has seen its discoverer, Satoshi Omura, of Tokyo’s prestigious Kitasato Institute, receive the 2014 Gairdner Global Health Award and the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, which he shared with a collaborating partner in the discovery and development of the drug, William Campbell of Merck & Co. Incorporated. Today, ivermectin is continuing to surprise and excite scientists, offering more and more promise to help improve global public health by treating a diverse range of diseases, with its unexpected potential as an antibacterial, antiviral and anti-cancer agent being particularly extraordinary.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:59 pm to
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Good grief.... Im not reading your link; it literally proves nothing.


Hey man, no skin off my nuts. Don’t read it. I don’t care. I’m just saying - ivermectin may be a cure. It might not be. What do you really have to lose though?
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:01 pm to
My horses have never been better.
Posted by HarryBalzack
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:03 pm to
Do they drink it or use the pour on?
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:04 pm to
At his point, I agree.

At the end, you'll try anything, at any time.
I could post at length about that.

Brother, at this point, Invermectin is not a cure or even a treatment that has any proof that it helps.

But this here is America. If you get cancer and you feel in your heart it'll help, by all means, do it.



Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:05 pm to
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My oncologist doesn’t believe that there’s enough evidence that it’s helpful.


Imagine that.
Posted by wallowinit
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:07 pm to
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Despite the large number of related studies, there are still some key issues that have not been resolved. First of all, the specific mechanism of IVM-mediated cytotoxicity in tumor cells is unclear; it may be related to the effect of IVM on various signaling pathways, but it is not very clear overall. Second, IVM seems to induce mixed cell death in tumor cells, which is also a controversial issue. Therefore, this review summarized the latest findings on the anticancer effect of IVM and discussed the mechanism of the inhibition of tumor proliferation and the way that IVM induces tumor programmed cell death to provide a theoretical basis for the use of IVM as a potential anticancer drug. As the cost of the research and development of new anticancer drugs continues to increase, drug repositioning has become increasingly important. Drug repositioning refers to the development of new drug indications that have been approved for clinical use [28]. For some older drugs that are widely used for their original indications and have clinical data and safety information, drug repositioning allows them to be developed via a cheaper and faster cycle and to be used more effectively in clinical use clinically [29]. Here, we systematically summarized the anticancer effect and mechanism of IVM, which is of great significance for the repositioning of IVM for cancer treatment.

It shows effectiveness at killing cancer tumor cells but the exact mechanism of accomplishing this is not clear and is the reason it hasn’t been approved.
Not that it is not effective.

It’s interesting to me to see how programmed many people appear to be.

OMG Ivermectin! My Doctor says “……..RUN!!!

You should know that your doctor doesn’t really care about you. He has a business to run.

You have to be your own doctor. The information is out there.

It is unwise to not try to understand what a doctor is doing or not doing to you.


Posted by wallowinit
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:09 pm to
Probably most of the medications and supplements that you take were tested and approved in China before being approved here based on the results from China
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