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re: It’s time to get medieval with criminals.

Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:03 am to
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
10865 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:03 am to
I agree with your premise. However,

quote:

the decrease in violent crime would decrease dramatically.


Got me.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295461 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:04 am to
Sounds like a huge waste of resources.

Many people commit crimes way past the age of 65, there's nothing magic about old age. Equality.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
2248 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:04 am to
quote:

AT ALL about going back to prison or the death penalty


Problem is the death penalty is not an effective deterrent. Especially in it's current form. However, if we went back to the days of the wild west, where a person was tried, judged, and hung in the same day, then that'll work.
Posted by Fastcat
Member since Nov 2016
444 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:05 am to
If you have done something that gets life without the probability of parole you need to be put to death because you are not in that situation because you stole something from a store . I have heard arguments that if you kill the criminal it will only be for that one crime and others will happen. I ask how many times have you heard he has a rap sheet as long as your arm or that he killed someone years ago and is now out on parole and has done it again. The death penalty needs to be in full swing and for the non violent offenders the chain gang needs to be in full force. If you attempt to escape shoot him. This is not directed at you just the ones who think the death penalty is not gonna fix anything.
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
7173 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:05 am to
Maybe your ‘sources’ are preaching the Soros narrative? More typical ‘woke’ historians that have been ‘trained’ by our stellar universities. You keep drinking that refreshing kool-aid.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31519 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Sounds like a huge waste of resources. Many people commit crimes way past the age of 65, there's nothing magic about old age. Equality.


The huge waste of resources is the absurd percentage of the DOC budget that goes to healthcare for geriatric inmates. It’s staggering.

And again, my plan wouldn’t release people at 65. It would simply make them eligible to apply for parole as a matter of law. The parole board can and will deny the overwhelming majority of those applications.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
12621 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:13 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78197 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Do you honestly look around at your job and think, “man, these guys aren’t getting enough chances?”


Y’all don’t trust the government to build school but you trust them to successfully prosecute, torture and kill every 2x offender?

It’s insane that’s it’s the same people screaming about the coming gulags that also want to kill every criminal.

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15946 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:19 am to
I’ve always thought it better to punish in ways that make someone live to feel the pain

Death penalty is not a deterrent

If a person knew that they’d be lashed with barbed wire for shoplifting they’d be less inclined to do it. Reduce shoplifting and you reduce larger crimes.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179317 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:20 am to
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There is no such thing as ‘rehabilitation.’ Our prison system doesn’t offer that nor encourage it. It is taking violent criminals and transferring them to another violent environment where they continue to thrive. Drugs, prison sex, gangs, etc. it’s just a different form of society they quickly and HAPPILY adapt too.




We should take them all to a large island. Maybe name it Australlia or something.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179317 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:22 am to
quote:

I’ve always thought it better to punish in ways that make someone live to feel the pain



Remember when the US was mad about Singapore sentencing an American to six stroked of a cane for stealing road signs?

I bet that dude never stole anything for the rest of his life.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31519 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Maybe your ‘sources’ are preaching the Soros narrative? More typical ‘woke’ historians that have been ‘trained’ by our stellar universities. You keep drinking that refreshing kool-aid.


Couldn’t find a single source to support your position, could you?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31519 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:35 am to
quote:

If you have done something that gets life without the probability of parole you need to be put to death because you are not in that situation because you stole something from a store . I have heard arguments that if you kill the criminal it will only be for that one crime and others will happen. I ask how many times have you heard he has a rap sheet as long as your arm or that he killed someone years ago and is now out on parole and has done it again. The death penalty needs to be in full swing and for the non violent offenders the chain gang needs to be in full force. If you attempt to escape shoot him. This is not directed at you just the ones who think the death penalty is not gonna fix anything.


Administering the death penalty is currently staggeringly expensive. What’s your solution for making it cheaper? If it’s an arbitrary length of time for appeals, please give that time period.

Because I try not to hide the ball, after you do so, I’ll give you the list of innocent people who would have been murdered by the state if we put your policy into effect.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295461 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:37 am to
quote:



The huge waste of resources is the absurd percentage of the DOC budget that goes to healthcare for geriatric inmates. It’s staggering.


So is the cost of crime driven by recidivism, and I'd rather be safe than a bleeding heart.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 11:38 am
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
7173 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:38 am to
One of these is a factual response and the other one is a typical delusional woke response.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295461 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:43 am to
Some bleeding heart will protest anything, you have to learn to overlook people who value feelings over reality.

Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16638 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:43 am to
I firmly believe that corporal punishment for minor crimes would greatly help reduce crime. And put it on youtube for everyone to see, a modern day approach to the the public square.

Have students from 5th grade up watch it. Little Jimmy stole a candy bar, that warrants 5 licks with the paddle. Setup 2 cameras, one on the punishment as a whole and another camera focused on little Jimmys face.
Humiliate them into never doing that job again.

If little Jimmy screws up and does something worse than candy bar, give them a few more licks and leave them in the stocks like they did years ago. Like for 24 hours or so. Third time they steal chop off a hand.


There is no reason to make taxpayers pay for prison for many YEARS for little Jimmys crimes. Chop off a hand, then a foot, then the other foot.

I guarantee someone with no feet and just one hand wont be committing many crimes.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
7894 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Prisons need to be set up where the violent criminals have little to no interaction with each other or anyone else. Solo exercise time. No interaction in the cafeteria. They should also have the most basic of comforts. Running water, toilets, air conditioning. Very spartan. No television or radio. They can have books. That’s it.


I vote the other way. They get all the interaction they want bc they are just thrown in a concrete room with beds and toilets. Enough food served to feed NOT QUITE everyone. Then we let nature run it’s course.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5999 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:49 am to
we put down dogs that are vicious and unsafe to home.

i have no problems with extending that to humans.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295461 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:51 am to
if the government doesn't keep them locked up, citizens will end up taking matters into their own hands.


Some people are not fixable.
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