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re: It's that time of year again - Why crawfish prices will be high...again

Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:40 am to
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:40 am to
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They didn't even have to use the ol fuel cost excuse this year. At least not yet.


Lunch last week with my German co-workers and they were complaining about the farmer strike going on here. I said “are you kidding me crawfish farmers back home are the worst. If the price of hay in Bangladesh goes up we pay”. One of the guys looks up “what are crawfish” on his phone and next day he has a news flash about how much crawfish will go up this year.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 10:41 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134604 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:41 am to
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It was a frozen scene on Wednesday in Louisiana, and the thing people want the most is a warm pot of boiled crawfish.



We do?

Give me a gumbo, a chili, an etoufee.


Not boiled crawfish that you eat outside
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:47 am to
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I don't think that's the case for the vast majority of farmers


So they are lying about the 90k acres affected by saltwater

You don't think bayous and ditches that people pump out of went dry further north?

Also you don't think the pond was affected when it took 14-20 days to get water across it when it usually takes 5-7?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:05 am to
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So they are lying about the 90k acres affected by saltwater



I just admitted saltwater intrusion could have affected them. 90K acres isn't the vast majority of farms. I know people who have ponds near the coast that had fresh water to pump.




Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:10 am to
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90K acres isn't the vast majority of farms


not the majority but its about 1/3 of the acres

Take 1/3 of the supply out of anything and see how it effects the price

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I know people who have ponds near the coast that had fresh water to pump.


oh yea
Are they catching?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:11 am to
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oh yea
Are they catching?



They last 2-3 days? No


Before, yes.


ETA: is it a bumper crop? No.


This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 11:16 am
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6157 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:18 am to
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ETA: is it a bumper crop? No.


So why were you in here running your mouth about the price if you already know this?

How much are they off pounds wise from this time last year?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:18 am to
Tell your buddies with ponds to get them shipped to market and make that money then.
There are probably 50 places in the Nola area the past month so they could have been selling them.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:20 am to
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So why were you in here running your mouth about the price if you already know this?

How much are they off pounds wise from this time last year?




I never said one thing about the price in this thread. I either said or inferred that there are ways to mitigate weather for many.

I don't know what their counts are. I know they aren't getting rich this year, but they aren't hand to mouth either
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6157 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:25 am to
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I either said or inferred that there are ways to mitigate weather for many


What are these ways? Why didn't you answer my question about bayous/ditching drying up or the effect of taking 2-3 times as long to get water across the field?
What about the crawfish that bury about the water line?

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I never said one thing about the price in this thread.

No you just inferred that the farmers were lying about the lack of supply and just pumping at the right time would've solved the problem and the farmers didn't know what they were doing
And then you proceeded not to even know how most pond crawfish in this state are actually grown
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:26 am to
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I can see the problem with pumping in coastal areas due to saltwater coming in. I don't think that's the case for the vast majority of farmers



and then there might even be more restrictions being that crawfish is a food item, im sure they have to have pretested and preapproved food safe water declared officially as "clean"

thats just me thinking, so i dont know if thats true, but it seems like it could be an issue when dealing with water sources for a food crop
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42259 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:28 am to
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5 lb order for $100 at a restaurant in Lafayette


Why would ANYONE pay that?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:38 am to
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Why didn't you answer my question about bayous/ditching drying up or the effect of taking 2-3 times as long to get water across the field?
What about the crawfish that bury about the water line?



If it took 2-3 times as long to flood, then supplemental pumping might've been a good idea. I've seen it done. Yes I am aware it is even more money to spend.

If your water supply dried up, then I feel for you. There is nothing that can be done. I think those people are the minority in an area of the state that is half swamp.


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No you just inferred that the farmers were lying about the lack of supply and just pumping at the right time would've solved the problem and the farmers didn't know what they were doing
And then you proceeded not to even know how most pond crawfish in this state are actually grown



The crawfish don't use the rice stubble for food? I know some people plant and farm both and some alternate.

Farmers aren't to blame at all for what people in LA are paying. The wholesalers are. I get that.

This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 11:40 am
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:41 am to
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Farmers aren't to blame at all for what people in LA are paying. The wholesalers are. I get that.

Or MAYBE a lack of crawfish might be the reason prices are so high?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:46 am to
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Or MAYBE a lack of crawfish might be the reason prices are so high?




Combined with shipping them away, yes. They are getting top dollar for them elsewhere, and if you want to have them here you are paying what people in other places are paying.


I admittedly know more crabbers than crawfish farmers, and many of them make no attempt to sell to anyone who distributes locally because of what they can get by shipping them out. Hell I know one crabber who bought restaurants in Maryland
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6157 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:47 am to
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Farmers aren't to blame at all for what people in LA are paying. The wholesalers are. I get that.


nobody is to blame right now. the price to the farmers is $8 - that should tell you right now how low the supply is

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The crawfish don't use the rice stubble for food? I know some people plant and farm both and some alternate.

jesus christ - did you even read my post explaining everything to you?

This is what happens when know it alls try to talk about shite they dont have a clue about

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If it took 2-3 times as long to flood, then supplemental pumping might've been a good idea

supplement from where. what if they pump from a deep well? You want them to go drill a $100k well in a few days
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13215 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:48 am to
I solved this problem a long time ago. If the price is too high I don't buy them.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6157 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:49 am to
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Combined with shipping them away, yes. They are getting top dollar for them elsewhere, and if you want to have them here you are paying what people in other places are paying.


So all those crawfish farmers that have boiling places all around Acadiana aren't opening there business up yet because they are shipping their product away?
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
6903 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:52 am to
Honestly I don’t buy crawfish until they’re cheap because they give me the shits. It’s hard to justify paying that kind of coin for food that’s going to only be in my digestive system for less than 45 minutes.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:52 am to
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So all those crawfish farmers that have boiling places all around Acadiana aren't opening there business up yet because they are shipping their product away?




If the catch is low enough to where the extra costs of operating a restaurant aren't worth it, absolutely. Why wouldn't they? How low that needs to be, I have no idea.
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