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Posted on 6/30/23 at 5:59 am to Lickitty Split
I’ll say this. Giving people raises is absolutely not going to cause them to do a better job. That’s not how life works. It doesn’t automatically transform them into doing better at their job, and that’s in any field you look at, so if that’s the goal, it’s coming from a very ignorant place.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:01 am to mathtutor70791
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Why don't you go volunteer or sub for a few days in a public school. Go to a planning (PLC) meeting with teachers, attempt to read, comprehend the curriculum and then teach it in a way that will engage your students. Then come back here and update us.
Not every teacher is a crappy teacher, just like every doctor isn't on cocaine or every cop is a bad cop. Educators work very hard during the school day and after hours. Sorry that your friends are crappy people and teachers
Cool, fire the bad teachers and take their salary. I'm fine with that. It's obviously incorrect to say all teachers suck, and I will easily grant you the parents are a huge portion of the issue, but all of have been through a school system and seen just how many bad teachers are protected.
Like police, get rid of the bad apples and pay more money to get better recruits.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 6:06 am
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:15 am to lsu xman
Pretty easy to find- East Baton Rouge Parish
56,034
LA Teacher pay by parish from April 2023
St. Charles Parish just passed a 4% raise for teachers and still have a ton of openings. The schools are good in most of the parish but they have a hard time retaining teachers since they haven't gotten raises in ages.
56,034
LA Teacher pay by parish from April 2023
St. Charles Parish just passed a 4% raise for teachers and still have a ton of openings. The schools are good in most of the parish but they have a hard time retaining teachers since they haven't gotten raises in ages.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:17 am to Lickitty Split
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It’s disgusting to see EBR give big raises to teachers
Yes because trying to pay a competitive salary won't potentially bring in any better teachers right?
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:18 am to Lickitty Split
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So you do not think there are even a few glorified babysitters in the EBR government school system?
Why do you care? Do you have a child in the system? Even if they are “glorified baby sitters” they deserve a raise. Do you have any idea who they are sitting and what they have to put up with? Go substitute teach these turds for one day and then report back.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:20 am to double d
Using that is pointless because many areas have "teachers" in leadership/school board positions making 70k or more, however, since they are still labeled teachers it messes with the average.
A teacher in their 10th year with only a bachelor's makes 50k in EBR. To make the 54k average it states one would have to work 29 years in EBR or work 12 years with a masters degree. So for comparison a 1st year teacher makes only 2,200 less than a 10th year teacher. They would also get the same 500 for being effective or 700 for highly effective.
A teacher in their 10th year with only a bachelor's makes 50k in EBR. To make the 54k average it states one would have to work 29 years in EBR or work 12 years with a masters degree. So for comparison a 1st year teacher makes only 2,200 less than a 10th year teacher. They would also get the same 500 for being effective or 700 for highly effective.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 6:23 am
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:28 am to double d
You sure it is the pay or is it the kids or the materials or dealing with this child sexual revolution that the administrators are trying to further? You sure it has nothing to do with not being able to kick out kids who cause all the issues?
It’s not money. It’s obvious from all these people saying go substitute and report back. I don’t need to substitute to know what goes on in these government schools.
It’s not a pay problem it’s a discipline problem. It’s a failure to hold anyone accountable for their actions whether it’s teachers or students. It’s putting the priorities in the wrong place.
None of this means I need to pay more taxes. You’re not entitled to my hard earned money just because you’re a teacher. Otherwise we keep rewarding failure and it’s no wonder it never gets any better.
It’s not money. It’s obvious from all these people saying go substitute and report back. I don’t need to substitute to know what goes on in these government schools.
It’s not a pay problem it’s a discipline problem. It’s a failure to hold anyone accountable for their actions whether it’s teachers or students. It’s putting the priorities in the wrong place.
None of this means I need to pay more taxes. You’re not entitled to my hard earned money just because you’re a teacher. Otherwise we keep rewarding failure and it’s no wonder it never gets any better.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:29 am to Lickitty Split
If you want to have good teachers, you need to pay them well. Then, you can be stringent on who you hire. Beggars can’t be choosers. You have to invest in quality teachers. Not pray that really good one sticks around for purely altruistic motivations.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:30 am to Falco
I guess the wrong people are getting paid the big dollars. Maybe if they changed the way people were paid and rewarded the teachers who actually teach versus the babysitters then they could keep the good teachers.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:32 am to Powerman
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You're probably just some average middle class guy only bitching about this because you think you're making some meaningful contribution to their salary increases
We are paying more for something that we all agree is not good enough. Meanwhile our roads are getting worse every day. Paying failing teachers isn’t going to solve the issue. It is perfectly acceptable for him, or anyone else, to be concerned where their tax dollars are being spent. Especially in the state of Louisiana where everything touched by the government is trash.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:34 am to DeafJam73
Or maybe if it’s known that the school system sucks, I can just move somewhere not that much further away where the school system doesn’t suck. It looks like all these other school systems that perform better than EBR aren’t paying their teachers that much more even there are even paying then more.
That argument doesn’t hold water.
That argument doesn’t hold water.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:35 am to Lickitty Split
I think most teachers would love baby sitter money, especially for baby sitting 20-25 kids for 8 hours a day. I mean $10 an hour for that many kids? They would be banking serious cash, even at $5 an hour.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:35 am to Lickitty Split
What metrics do you use though to measure them? Scores? A teacher in a gifted class will have better scores than small groip SPED. Growth? A teacher is a small group class might show more growth than a teacher in a gifted class.
Arbitrary AP and Principal reviews from a 30 min observation once a semester?
Bottom line is that the problem is parents. Kids are off the chain. The other problem is people like you that shun the system for private school then incessantly bitch about it. Be a fricking solution.
Arbitrary AP and Principal reviews from a 30 min observation once a semester?
Bottom line is that the problem is parents. Kids are off the chain. The other problem is people like you that shun the system for private school then incessantly bitch about it. Be a fricking solution.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:37 am to Lickitty Split
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That argument doesn’t hold
It does hold water, but it’s not the only problem that needs addressing. There’s much more that needs to be done in order to repair school system. There no one cure all answer.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:38 am to Lickitty Split
this is a whole lot of stupid in one thread by one poster.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:41 am to Lickitty Split
The assistants (lunch ladies, paraprofessionals, secretaries, bus drives, etc.) make 20k a year. They deserve every penny of that 8% raise. Do you really want poor candidates around your kids?
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:41 am to Boss
I am providing solutions. It doesn’t matter where I send my kids if I pay the taxes that funds the system. I get a say and this is my say. These aren’t new solutions. They don’t want to solve the problem. Let’s not report this kid beating someone up because it looks bad for the school system if our numbers go up.
The answers are all right there. No one wants to hold anybody accountable. They just want more money. Well guess what, you aren’t getting it. The gravy train is running out within the next 5 years. Plan accordingly.
The answers are all right there. No one wants to hold anybody accountable. They just want more money. Well guess what, you aren’t getting it. The gravy train is running out within the next 5 years. Plan accordingly.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:42 am to Klark Kent
Great contribution, Superman.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:43 am to Boss
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Bottom line is that the problem is parents. Kids are off the chain. The other problem is people like you that shun the system for private school then incessantly bitch about it. Be a fricking solution.
The parents are definitely a driving factor. Many either don’t care about their children’s education, or they’ve given up hope and given into acceptance of mediocrity. As for parents who send their kids to private school, I hear what you’re saying, but parents, myself included, are going to do what’s best for them. If that means abandoning a failing state, so be it.
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