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re: It's difficult to feel sorry for the Japanese in the aftermath of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:18 pm to
They fricked around.......

















And found out......














Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:30 pm to


Don't forget about what the 442nd Infantry Regiment did..
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

At some point the citizenry is responsible for the government they allow to rule them.



you mean the democratically elected Emperor or the war machine they created
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
3628 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:40 pm to
We should have hired the Germans to drop the nukes for us — after all, they owed us that much after bombing Pearl Harbor.


Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14511 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:43 pm to
I'm glad they bombed their asses instead of invading. Otherwise, I probably would have never existed.


....and just think what all of you folks would have missed.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135341 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:46 pm to
Innocent people die in war. War is ugly.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47594 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

1. The Rape of Nanking (1937), also known as the Nanjing Massacre.
2. The Bangka Island Massacre (1942): Slaughter of Australian Army Nurses.
3. The Bataan Death March (1942)
4. The Sandakan Death March (1945)
5. Murder and cannibalism on the Kokoda Track (1942)


- Burma Railway
- Palawan Massacre (herded 139 American POWs into air raid shelters and burned them alive)
- Chaining Indian POWs to the top of a submarine and then diving with them still on top
- Torpedoing hospital ships
- Transporting POWs in "hell ships" (packed them in cargo holds) and didn't mark the ships as POW transporters, leading to American submarines unknowingly torpedoing ships with American POWs in the cargo holds
- Executing nurses
- Cutting flesh off of live POWs, cooking it, eating it, and throwing POWs into a ditch to die
- Stranding shipwreck survivors at sea

I could go on and on and on with this list. If you ever read up on all of their atrocities, you'd be stunned to read the stuff they never taught you in school. The Japs did shite that would even make Hitler squirm.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:53 pm to
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If you ever read up on all of their atrocities, you'd be stunned to read the stuff they never taught you in school. The Japs did shite that would even make Hitler squirm.



Thats just sad....... We should bomb Tokyo today........ Yup send a NUKE over there and see what happens with this country....
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:59 pm to
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We should bomb Tokyo today........ Yup send a NUKE over there and see what happens with this country....


Wait till after a few of these upcoming video games come out..
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58139 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 3:50 pm to
My grandpa (drafted by the army) always said he was sitting in Tokyo bay in August - they were told they were going to have to go house to house if the Japanese didn’t surrender

He never said much else - he spent the first year in the pentagon and then was sent to the pacific - he caught malaria in the Philippines - and was in Guam too.

My husbands grandpa was in the pacific too - he was anti-aircraft artillery and never spoke about it too much either

My husband’s godfather was a POW and tortured by the Japanese - he talked a lot about it and hated them - but then again he was missing a leg and his balls
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

s difficult to feel sorry for the Japanese in the aftermath


Off topic ,but the brutal Japanese invasion of China inadvertently saved Mao Zedong & his Communist party.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:07 pm to
Its hard to feel sorry for people who had basically no control in the overarching conflict and got nuked?

Kinda heartless
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:12 pm to
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People might bitch and moan about the bombs being a violation of human rights or unethical.


Any one that’s says something so stupid has never read any books on the brutality of the island campaign. That was pure insanity. Invading the Japanese mainland would have been horrific beyond our imagination.
Posted by skinnytrees
REC Check Writing Office
Member since Sep 2015
1805 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:12 pm to
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Its hard to feel sorry for people who had basically no control in the overarching conflict and got nuked?

Kinda heartless


I wonder what would have happened if everyone from the bombed cities would have rushed the imperial palace to overthrow .gov instead of support them.

My guess is fewer deaths than they got.

Choices have consequences. Instant fire ball death well deserved in this case.
This post was edited on 10/30/20 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52757 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:15 pm to
The bombs saved millions of lives on both sides
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:17 pm to
That isnt mutually exclusive with "feeling bad" for a buncha people getting nuked
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

I wonder what would have happened if everyone from the bombed cities would have rushed the imperial palace to overthrow .gov instead of support them.

My guess is fewer deaths than they got.

Choices have consequences.
what if biden wins the election, and it turns out people were burning trump ballots?

Should republican supporters bumrush the white house to remove a false president?

I mean, id like to see it happen and all if so, but people usually don't want to die in masses. Plus they didnt reqlly know what was coming for them
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
3628 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 5:12 pm to
Presentism — judging the past by current opinion — can be a dangerous thing.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34848 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

they didn’t want the second bomb, they should have surrendered after the first.



They didn't believe we had the first.

After, we told them to surrender or we would drop another. They didn't believe we could possibly have a second.

After the second, they thought there was no way we could possibly have a third and the War Council still wanted to fight.

The Emperor decided to surrender because he wasn't willing to lose Tokyo to a bomb.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
18659 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 5:27 pm to
It had to be done and Im glad we did it. Japs fricked around and chose not to surrender, that shits on them.
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