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re: It's difficult to feel sorry for the Japanese in the aftermath of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:18 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:18 pm to RollTide1987
They fricked around.......
And found out......

And found out......

Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:30 pm to sonoma8
Don't forget about what the 442nd Infantry Regiment did..
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:35 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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At some point the citizenry is responsible for the government they allow to rule them.
you mean the democratically elected Emperor or the war machine they created
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:40 pm to iAmBatman
We should have hired the Germans to drop the nukes for us — after all, they owed us that much after bombing Pearl Harbor.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:43 pm to RollTide1987
I'm glad they bombed their asses instead of invading. Otherwise, I probably would have never existed.
....and just think what all of you folks would have missed.
....and just think what all of you folks would have missed.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:46 pm to RollTide1987
Innocent people die in war. War is ugly.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:48 pm to theCrusher
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1. The Rape of Nanking (1937), also known as the Nanjing Massacre.
2. The Bangka Island Massacre (1942): Slaughter of Australian Army Nurses.
3. The Bataan Death March (1942)
4. The Sandakan Death March (1945)
5. Murder and cannibalism on the Kokoda Track (1942)
- Burma Railway
- Palawan Massacre (herded 139 American POWs into air raid shelters and burned them alive)
- Chaining Indian POWs to the top of a submarine and then diving with them still on top
- Torpedoing hospital ships
- Transporting POWs in "hell ships" (packed them in cargo holds) and didn't mark the ships as POW transporters, leading to American submarines unknowingly torpedoing ships with American POWs in the cargo holds
- Executing nurses
- Cutting flesh off of live POWs, cooking it, eating it, and throwing POWs into a ditch to die
- Stranding shipwreck survivors at sea
I could go on and on and on with this list. If you ever read up on all of their atrocities, you'd be stunned to read the stuff they never taught you in school. The Japs did shite that would even make Hitler squirm.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:53 pm to VADawg
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If you ever read up on all of their atrocities, you'd be stunned to read the stuff they never taught you in school. The Japs did shite that would even make Hitler squirm.
Thats just sad....... We should bomb Tokyo today........ Yup send a NUKE over there and see what happens with this country....
Posted on 10/30/20 at 2:59 pm to dukke v
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We should bomb Tokyo today........ Yup send a NUKE over there and see what happens with this country....
Wait till after a few of these upcoming video games come out..
Posted on 10/30/20 at 3:50 pm to RollTide1987
My grandpa (drafted by the army) always said he was sitting in Tokyo bay in August - they were told they were going to have to go house to house if the Japanese didn’t surrender
He never said much else - he spent the first year in the pentagon and then was sent to the pacific - he caught malaria in the Philippines - and was in Guam too.
My husbands grandpa was in the pacific too - he was anti-aircraft artillery and never spoke about it too much either
My husband’s godfather was a POW and tortured by the Japanese - he talked a lot about it and hated them - but then again he was missing a leg and his balls
He never said much else - he spent the first year in the pentagon and then was sent to the pacific - he caught malaria in the Philippines - and was in Guam too.
My husbands grandpa was in the pacific too - he was anti-aircraft artillery and never spoke about it too much either
My husband’s godfather was a POW and tortured by the Japanese - he talked a lot about it and hated them - but then again he was missing a leg and his balls
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:02 pm to RollTide1987
quote:
s difficult to feel sorry for the Japanese in the aftermath
Off topic ,but the brutal Japanese invasion of China inadvertently saved Mao Zedong & his Communist party.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:07 pm to RollTide1987
Its hard to feel sorry for people who had basically no control in the overarching conflict and got nuked?
Kinda heartless
Kinda heartless
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:12 pm to carhartt
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People might bitch and moan about the bombs being a violation of human rights or unethical.
Any one that’s says something so stupid has never read any books on the brutality of the island campaign. That was pure insanity. Invading the Japanese mainland would have been horrific beyond our imagination.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:12 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Its hard to feel sorry for people who had basically no control in the overarching conflict and got nuked?
Kinda heartless
I wonder what would have happened if everyone from the bombed cities would have rushed the imperial palace to overthrow .gov instead of support them.
My guess is fewer deaths than they got.
Choices have consequences. Instant fire ball death well deserved in this case.
This post was edited on 10/30/20 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:15 pm to RollTide1987
The bombs saved millions of lives on both sides
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:17 pm to skinnytrees
That isnt mutually exclusive with "feeling bad" for a buncha people getting nuked
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:25 pm to skinnytrees
quote:what if biden wins the election, and it turns out people were burning trump ballots?
I wonder what would have happened if everyone from the bombed cities would have rushed the imperial palace to overthrow .gov instead of support them.
My guess is fewer deaths than they got.
Choices have consequences.
Should republican supporters bumrush the white house to remove a false president?
I mean, id like to see it happen and all if so, but people usually don't want to die in masses. Plus they didnt reqlly know what was coming for them
Posted on 10/30/20 at 5:12 pm to SEClint
Presentism — judging the past by current opinion — can be a dangerous thing.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 5:24 pm to BregmansWheelbarrow
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they didn’t want the second bomb, they should have surrendered after the first.
They didn't believe we had the first.
After, we told them to surrender or we would drop another. They didn't believe we could possibly have a second.
After the second, they thought there was no way we could possibly have a third and the War Council still wanted to fight.
The Emperor decided to surrender because he wasn't willing to lose Tokyo to a bomb.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 5:27 pm to magildachunks
It had to be done and Im glad we did it. Japs fricked around and chose not to surrender, that shits on them.
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