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It's difficult to feel sorry for the Japanese in the aftermath of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:04 pm
The people were pawns in their government's grand game and by mid-1944, the government knew the game was over and that there was no possible way they could win the war against the United States. The Japanese should have surrendered after the Battle of the Philippine Sea (June 19-20, 1944) but especially after the loss of the Marianas Islands. The capture of Guam, Tinian and Saipan brought the home islands within range of American B-29 bombers. Bombing raids commenced on major Japanese industrial centers and did not let up until August of the following year.
Japan's decision to continue the war, even though they knew they had absolutely no shot at winning, cost the lives of an additional 1.5 million Japanese soldiers and civilians. You can bitch and moan about the nuclear attacks on the Japanese in August 1945 all you want to, but the Japanese decision to ride it out to the bitter end is what led to that event in the first place.
Japan's decision to continue the war, even though they knew they had absolutely no shot at winning, cost the lives of an additional 1.5 million Japanese soldiers and civilians. You can bitch and moan about the nuclear attacks on the Japanese in August 1945 all you want to, but the Japanese decision to ride it out to the bitter end is what led to that event in the first place.
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Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:06 pm to RollTide1987
If they didn’t want the second bomb, they should have surrendered after the first.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:07 pm to RollTide1987
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It's difficult to feel sorry for the Japanese in the aftermath of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
It's difficult for you to feel sorry for people that were brainwashed into a war that decimated them? Now, they definitely had a ruthless military and I don't feel sorry for them. But the ordinary citizens that given the choice between surrendering or having their city vaporized would have overwhelming surrendered if they could have?
This post was edited on 10/30/20 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:07 pm to RollTide1987
Once the US knew an invasion of mainland Japan was not going to happen or be successful because of the way they fought on the islands made it imperative to find a way to end it especially with them refusing to surrender once Hitler was out.
US very fortunate they won the naval battle as that was the key. Once they destroyed the Japanese fleet it was over.
US very fortunate they won the naval battle as that was the key. Once they destroyed the Japanese fleet it was over.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:08 pm to RollTide1987
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:08 pm to RollTide1987
People might bitch and moan about the bombs being a violation of human rights or unethical. But the US had to do something to break the Japanese will to fight. If we didn’t, they would have never given up.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:09 pm to RollTide1987
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It's difficult to feel sorry for the Japanese in the aftermath of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
No doubt. They decided to bring us in the war with the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Also, many more Americans would have lost their lives, if we didn't do it.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:09 pm to RollTide1987
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It's difficult to feel sorry for the Japanese in the aftermath of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
The Japanese as a whole, absolutely. I don't feel one bit sorry for them.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:10 pm to RollTide1987
As a human being I feel bad for the suffering and the innocent lives lost, however it was the right thing to do to prevent even more loss of life on both sides.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:10 pm to BregmansWheelbarrow
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If they didn’t want the second bomb, they should have surrendered after the first.
This. Whenever someone questions whether the bombs were necessary, the fact that a second one needed to be dropped should tell you the answer.
Also, I agree with OP as far as not feeling bad for them. That was the most evil, barbaric society in at least the last 500 years. They killed twice as many civilians as the Germans did and the shite they did to POWs (including Americans) is absolutely horrific.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:11 pm to colorchangintiger
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It's difficult for you to feel sorry for people that were brainwashed into a war that decimated them?
Uh, yeah...? Since when did being "brainwashed" become an excuse? It didn't work for the Nazis at Nuremberg.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:14 pm to RollTide1987
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It didn't work for the Nazis at Nuremberg.
I don't recall the citizens of Japan being put on trial for war crimes...maybe I was asleep that day in history class.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:15 pm to RollTide1987
You can root for the US but at the same time have compassion for Japanese civilians (families, young, old) who were lost.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:17 pm to RollTide1987
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Uh, yeah...? Since when did being "brainwashed" become an excuse? It didn't work for the Nazis at Nuremberg.
Nazis =/= normal citizens
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:17 pm to iAmBatman
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I don't recall the citizens of Japan being put on trial for war crimes.
I don't believe I was referring to the citizens of Japan in my OP. I'm pretty sure I made it abundantly clear that I was referring to their government.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:17 pm to BregmansWheelbarrow
quote:meh. keep in mind the bombs were very much a signal to Russia also
If they didn’t want the second bomb, they should have surrendered after the first.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:20 pm to RollTide1987
No it's not. I give you a short list.
1. The Rape of Nanking (1937), also known as the Nanjing Massacre.
2. The Bangka Island Massacre (1942): Slaughter of Australian Army Nurses.
3. The Bataan Death March (1942)
4. The Sandakan Death March (1945)
5. Murder and cannibalism on the Kokoda Track (1942)
1. The Rape of Nanking (1937), also known as the Nanjing Massacre.
2. The Bangka Island Massacre (1942): Slaughter of Australian Army Nurses.
3. The Bataan Death March (1942)
4. The Sandakan Death March (1945)
5. Murder and cannibalism on the Kokoda Track (1942)
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:22 pm to RollTide1987
Dropping the bombs saved considerably more lives than it took. Imagine the death toll if the Allies would have been forced to invade mainland Japan. I mean these people who were so devoted to their nation, they were willing to fly planes into our ships at 350 mph. They had to be dropped no question
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:22 pm to RollTide1987
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I don't believe I was referring to the citizens of Japan in my OP
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It's difficult to feel sorry for the Japanese in the aftermath of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
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Japanese
ummmmm...you might wanna check that post again
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