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re: Italy ISS releases report on Covid death total to reflect “from” instead of “with”
Posted on 11/3/21 at 5:45 pm to Tbonepatron
Posted on 11/3/21 at 5:45 pm to Tbonepatron
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You’d better calm down or your comorbidity is going to be stroke from hypertension.
Technically it would be hemorrhagic stroke due to arterial hypertension caused by, most likely, lipohyalinosis of lenticulostriate vessels, with the formation of Charcot-Bouchard microaneurysms leading to lacunar strokes of the basal ganglia. Let's be precise here. I didn't die from a stroke due to hypertension. I died due to intracerebral hemorrhage with hypertension, and since the effects of hypertension aren't strictly limited to the brain, how are we really to know it was the hypertension that caused my death? Why couldn't it be glomerulosclerosis due to ischemia and subsequent fibrosis of the kidneys? Who can say, in truth?
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 5:51 pm to Korkstand
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This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 11:32 am
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:06 pm to X123F45
quote:You might know who I am but you obviously don't know me well or what I do.
One of us did statistical analysis and research design for LSU. One of us is effectively an office manager.
quote:Oh, yes you really do have to explain this to me. This is the crux of the entire argument. It's the part that no one, including you, has ever attempted to explain. Because you can't.
I could explain to you that the lockdowns have caused massive increases in violence, overdoses, accidental deaths, and suicides... But I shouldn't have to. Because you know better.
You have obviously never looked at these statistics.
quote:Some of my posts are schtick, but these particular ones aren't. The from-with argument is bunk, and as such it is an awful way to attack an argument over policy. I'm not going to listen to someone's opinion if they're basing it on falsehoods.
I've never understood your schtick. You're clearly an intelligent guy, but you feign being as obtuse as Oweo in certain situations.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:12 pm to Korkstand
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This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 11:31 am
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:47 pm to Korkstand
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Ever get tired of beating up that strawman? Looks like you don't.
Ever get tired of being a terrible person that supports all of the shitty thing happening these days?
That was rhetorical, of course you don’t.
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Tell me, at the end of the day, do you go to bed feeling like you've "won" something when others get tired of your bullshite and walk away?
Is this you projecting because you’re upset you didnt “win” last time? Or are you still just mad about getting caught upvoting your own posts?
Posted on 11/3/21 at 8:04 pm to ell_13
Imagine that!?
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 8:06 pm to ell_13
I think most of us knew that the deaths reported were mostly covid complications of other illnesses and not simply covid itself.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:19 pm to X123F45
quote:I don't even know what I do, how could you?
Eh. I do.
quote:Eh
I worked with your wife briefly when under contract for the state.
We've talked about this.
Are you CH?
quote:You absolutely need to clarify how "huge" you believe this with-from difference to be, and then explain why and how you believe the causes of death that you listed can possibly have increased enough to make up the difference. I'm looking at 350k for 2020, what would be "huge" IYO? 50%? 25%? OP and others here seem to believe the numbers have been fudged by 90% or so, but let's just call it an even 100k. In 2020 we had nearly 500k excess deaths. Let's look at your causes of death:
I have to explain that deaths are up by every cause listed above and that's standard practice in the largest hospital system in our state was to mark deaths with covid as from covid?
Violence/murder: +~5k to 25k
Overdoses: +~20k to ~90k
Accidents: +~20k to ~190k
Suicide: down in 2020?
So let's round up to 50k accounted for. We can even say these increases are severely under-accounted for and double it to 100k, and we are still left with more excess deaths than counted covid deaths. Heart disease was up maybe 30k, most other changes negligible. Still not seeing where all these covid deaths were improperly counted, unless you think any of these figures are way off? Otherwise looks like covid deaths were under-counted if anything.
quote:Is this advice for yourself?
When going into any statistical analysis you should always attempt to prove your hypothesis wrong... Not validate it.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:42 pm to Open Your Eyes
quote:Still fighting that strawman.
Ever get tired of being a terrible person that supports all of the shitty thing happening these days?
quote:I don't take pride in "winning" against the mentally disabled. For a while I thought you were just a liar, but I think somewhere between the 15th and 20th time you repeated the same exact lies is when I began to realize that you are actually deficient.
Is this you projecting because you’re upset you didnt “win” last time? Or are you still just mad about getting caught upvoting your own posts?
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:38 pm to ell_13
Every time I laugh on this board at the Chinese Flu True Believers who actually buy the con job that 500K+ have died because of the virus I get a slew of DVs.
A year from now, there will be a slew of posting histories on here quietly scrubbed by posters who are embarrassed they ever supported the mask and vaccine mandates and CDC propaganda numbers.
A year from now, there will be a slew of posting histories on here quietly scrubbed by posters who are embarrassed they ever supported the mask and vaccine mandates and CDC propaganda numbers.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:45 pm to Korkstand
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Still fighting that strawman.
Still getting upset when people accurately point out what a piece of shite you are.
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I don't take pride in "winning" against the mentally disabled.
Oh, we’re back to pointing out how you can’t seem to find a “win” against a mentally disabled person now.
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For a while I thought you were just a liar, but I think somewhere between the 15th and 20th time you repeated the same exact lies is when I began to realize that you are actually deficient.
For as long as I can remember, you have been a well known piece of shite on these boards. You supporting the killing of 7 kids in a truck via drone strike only validated that further.
Tell us all again how you voted for the dementia riddled 40 year failure because you wanted less drone strikes, dumbass.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:18 pm to Open Your Eyes
quote:You think I'm upset? I mean I know that's your goal, and I know you like to pretend that you're achieving all your goals, but you're going to have to do way better than acting like an absolute moron to upset me.
Still getting upset when people accurately point out what a piece of shite you are.
quote:You might be making a little progress here. Have you been evaluated yet, or do you have someone who can help you set up an appointment?
Oh, we’re back to pointing out how you can’t seem to find a “win” against a mentally disabled person now.
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For as long as I can remember, you have been a well known piece of shite on these boards.
quote:Well maybe you haven't made as much progress as I thought. When you go in for your evaluation, I suggest you let the doc read your post history.
You supporting the killing of 7 kids in a truck via drone strike only validated that further.
quote:I voted against the guy who ignored and revoked the requirements to stand accountable for them. I also did it for numerous other reasons, not the least of which is he normalized compulsive lying and shameless idiocy. You wouldn't happen to know anything about that, would you?
Tell us all again how you voted for the dementia riddled 40 year failure because you wanted less drone strikes, dumbass.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:06 am to Korkstand
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This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 11:31 am
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:53 am to Korkstand
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You think I'm upset? I mean I know that's your goal, and I know you like to pretend that you're achieving all your goals, but you're going to have to do way better than acting like an absolute moron to upset me.
Right, because you having to resort to stupid shite about doctor’s evaluations instead of coming up with an actual retort to, well, anything actually is a clear sign of someone that isn’t upset.
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You might be making a little progress here. Have you been evaluated yet, or do you have someone who can help you set up an appointment?
I was actually. The evaluation was pretty much finished when they realized that I don’t support people that kill 7 kids via drone strike.
When is yours scheduled?
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When you have literally no rebuttal.
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Well maybe you haven't made as much progress as I thought. When you go in for your evaluation, I suggest you let the doc read your post history.
Same. Make sure you show him the one where you said you voted for the guy that’s made it clear for over a decade he’s heavily in favor of drone strikes, because you wanted less drone strikes.
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I voted against the guy
So on your ballot there was an option marked “not trump”? What state was this in exactly?
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who ignored and revoked the requirements to stand accountable for them
What accountability have your dementia patient or any of the people he authorized to make decisions in Afghanistan faced after doing the shitty things you supported them doing?
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I also did it for numerous other reasons, not the least of which is he normalized compulsive lying and shameless idiocy
Tell us more about your vote for the dementia patient with a 40+ year record of lying and idiocy.
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You wouldn't happen to know anything about that, would you?
Nah, I just know about people that are pieces of shite for supporting the killing of 7 kids in a truck via drone strike.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 7:33 am to shawnlsu
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Wouldn't that be some shite if/when its found out that the US planted this in China via Fauci to steal the election.
And might have done it on the U.S taxpayers dime at the the Military World Games held October, 2019 in Wuhan, China?
Posted on 11/4/21 at 7:53 am to Mr. Misanthrope
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And might have done it on the U.S taxpayers dime at the the Military World Games held October, 2019 in Wuhan, China?
Who else would have paid for it? We pay for everything else around the globe good or bad.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:03 am to Korkstand
quote:You used the minimums then rounded up?
In 2020 we had nearly 500k excess deaths. Let's look at your causes of death:
Violence/murder: +~5k to 25k
Overdoses: +~20k to ~90k
Accidents: +~20k to ~190k
Suicide: down in 2020?
So let's round up to 50k accounted for. We can even say these increases are severely under-accounted for and double it to 100k
Say that’s a 200k increase on the high end. Now think of all the “Covid” deaths that would usually be charted as something else had it been pneumonia or the flu (which amazingly disappeared).
I have no doubt Covid caused deaths. Thousands. I also have no doubt that it wasn’t close to 500k. Closer to 50k if we had counted them the way we count flu deaths.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 8:05 am
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:24 am to X123F45
quote:Then I have no idea who you are. Do I even know you?
Nah. But you are geographically close.
quote:lol ok
Let's resume the discussion at the end of the current year.
The numbers will be fairly interesting when comparing 2018. 2019, 2020, 2021.
quote:Well, thus far you've certainly avoided trying to prove yourself right.
Always. Before any intellectual pursuit where I have preconceived notions.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:38 am to ell_13
quote:I used the best numbers I could find then rounded up. If you have better ones, please post. I've been waiting a very long time for someone to provide this info.
You used the minimums then rounded up?
quote:Pneumonia deaths were up bigly (usually +covid, they are usually +flu). And flu testing was at similar levels as years past, it's just the tests kept coming up negative. It really did mostly disappear.
Say that’s a 200k increase on the high end. Now think of all the “Covid” deaths that would usually be charted as something else had it been pneumonia or the flu (which amazingly disappeared).
quote:And we're back to the start where you are now forced to account for those 500k excess deaths. How can you guys just ignore this?
I have no doubt Covid caused deaths. Thousands. I also have no doubt that it wasn’t close to 500k. Closer to 50k if we had counted them the way we count flu deaths.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:43 am to crazy4lsu
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This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 8:43 am
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