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re: It gets worse for HPD: no drugs found in system of woman murdered by police

Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:38 pm to
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Did they end up finding ANYTHING to closely justify their tactics?


No

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Not much is being said


The reason for this is above.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72709 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:46 pm to
That's why I hate no knock warrants. I piss somebody off by firing them, they call APSO and tell them I'm cooking meth in my house, some bad decisions by the government leads to them serving a no-knock at my house, I shoot a man breaking into my house (legal) and I get shot for shooting a cop. Because somebody got pissed off and tries to get me in trouble.

It's a horrible thing to do without 100% proof that theres is a severe danger that needs to be dealt with Fallujah style. Doing this shite for drug tip offs is asinine
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 12:47 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92328 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:46 pm to
Is there not some type of negotiation that can be made in these situations?

Could the police not call this house or the lady and say, “look, we think you’re hoarding drugs in here. If you just come out peacefully we will be able to work with you on these potential charges depending on what we find.”

Then have strict laws that lessen the criminal charges that these people face if they surrender peacefully.

No knock raids cause the really bad guys to feel desperate. Might as well go to war with these police officers if the alternative is spending a large portion of your life in prison. And it would help the innocent people who get blasted to shite in these things.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:49 pm to
then cops wouldn't get to dress up as soldiers, baw
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92328 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:56 pm to
What is the policy and goals in these things?

To make sure, whatever the cost, to secure evidence against the people in the home?

I’d understand and even be ok with that if they had concrete evidence of some bad mfers operating a massive operation. Even then, I think it still might be worth it to make contact with them and work on a deal if they were willing to surrender peacefully.

But to do these things to ONE person who MIGHT have drugs? What the hell was their goal here?
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 12:57 pm
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:06 pm to
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What is the policy and goals in these things?



To justify appropriating tax dollars to purchase military surplus items.



It says rescue. That's how you know it's for your own safety.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:19 pm to
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frick the blue

They are the exact fricking people who will come take your guns when the government tells them to. They are nothing but order taking maggots
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16376 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:25 pm to
Lol... They always shoot the dog
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 1:25 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45506 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:30 pm to
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Only a small amount of cocaine metabolite was there.

Toxicology experts say it can be detected for up to four days.


Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40765 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Didn't the police chief come out after this and scold the public for questioning what happened?



The head of the police union said this:

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We are sick and tired of having targets on our back,” he says. “We are sick and tired of having dirtbags trying to take our lives when all we’re trying to do is protect this community and protect our families. Enough is enough… If you’re the ones that are out there spreading the rhetoric that police officers are the enemy, just know we’ve all got your number now, we’re going to be keeping track of all of y’all, and we’re going to make sure that we hold you accountable every time you stir the pot on our police officers.”
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24494 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:13 pm to
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No knock warrants seem so fricked up

They seem that way because they are.

I understand the logic behind them. I just think the tactic should only be deployed when you're dealing with the top-tier, uber kingpin criminals and such. Not the neighborhood weed man.

Also, the intelligence had better be fricking rock solid before the "OK" is given. Because if it's not, shite like this happens. Cops shoot the wrong people and/or your average Joe is now fighting for his life in court because he shot a cop who broke his door down dressed in all black with his buddies.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 2:14 pm
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