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Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:54 am to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:54 am to
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Hamas has seized the gas and medical supplies that were allowed in.

They raided the UNRWA and took the gas and medical supplies that was already in Gaza. @UNRWA tweeted about it (including that it was certainly Hamas members who took the supplies), but deleted the tweets. Those tweets were saved, though, and later shared by @IDF. That building was later damaged in an Isrsaeli strike. Of course, without that original tweet by the UNRWA the coverage turned to Israel bombing a humanitarian relief building.

Now, Israel has taken stronger control of the Rafah Crossing and is inspecting every single humanitarian aid truck coming in. That seems only logical, but of course is being spun as Israel denying humanitarian aid after they agreed to let it through.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:14 am to
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That was the most disturbing compilations I've ever seen. Think twice before clicking that link.




There are about a half dozen people in that video that I'd shoot in the head in front of Jesus Christ himself and sleep well that night.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41779 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:17 am to
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Christian Hoff Summers had this epiphany moment, when she decided she was no longer a feminist.


Did she decide that she wasn't a feminist, or did she just abandon modern feminism?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:19 am to
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“The Washington Post published an article alleging that during Blinken's visit to Saudi Arabia, the crown prince kept him waiting for several hours. At the same time, the meeting itself was supposed to take place in the evening, but the prince appeared only the next morning. The humiliation did not end there. As soon as the meeting began, the Crown Prince demanded an end to the siege of Gaza, as well as any military operations.“


That's when you tell him straight up that we're going to let Israel fricking glass gaza, and if he has a problem with it he can try us.
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:22 am to
At what point is the second front with Hezbollah considered officially "open"?

@JoeTruzman
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IDF: In the last half hour, shots were fired toward several IDF posts along the Lebanese border. In addition, an anti-tank missile was fired at an IDF tank. No IDF injuries were reported.
The IDF is responding with artillery fire toward the origins of the fire.

Xwitter
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:24 am to
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That's when you tell him straight up that we're going to let Israel fricking glass gaza, and if he has a problem with it he can try us.


That’s pretty much what has happened, just not in so many words…
Posted by TexasTiger33
United States of America
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:24 am to
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Stunning State Department Memo Warns Diplomats: No Gaza 'De-Escalation' Talk
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As Israel escalates its attacks on Gaza, the State Department is discouraging diplomats working on Middle East issues from making public statements suggesting the U.S. wants to see less violence, according to internal emails viewed by HuffPost.

In messages circulated on Friday, State Department staff wrote that high-level officials do not want press materials to include three specific phrases: “de-escalation/ceasefire,” “end to violence/bloodshed” and “restoring calm.”
LINK to Huff Post article
Posted by TexasTiger33
United States of America
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:26 am to
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Iran considers US 'militarily involved' in Israel's war with Hamas
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Asked if Tehran would engage if the US weighed in, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Nasser Kanaani said: "Iran considers that the United States is already militarily involved in the conflict between Israel and Palestinians."

"The crimes of the Zionist regime are carried out with the support of the United States and Washington must be held accountable," he added at a news conference.
LINK to J Post article
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:30 am to
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Asked if Tehran would engage if the US weighed in, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Nasser Kanaani said: "Iran considers that the United States is already militarily involved in the conflict between Israel and Palestinians."

"The crimes of the Zionist regime are carried out with the support of the United States and Washington must be held accountable," he added at a news conference.

Well, I'm pretty sure the US (and anyone paying attention) considers Iran already militarily involved. It would be kind of refreshing not seeing the usual beating around the bush, if the implications weren't what they are.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104591 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:33 am to
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In messages circulated on Friday, State Department staff wrote that high-level officials do not want press materials to include three specific phrases: “de-escalation/ceasefire,” “end to violence/bloodshed” and “restoring calm.”


This isn’t about the US warmongering, this is about knowing Israel won’t listen to them and not coming off as impotent by trying to demand shite we know we won’t get.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:35 am to
Oh shite.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104591 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:35 am to
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That's when you tell him straight up that we're going to let Israel fricking glass gaza, and if he has a problem with it he can try us.


KSA could give a shite about Gaza.

This was about making Blinken and Biden look as impotent as they are because they pissed off KSA over several things, including overtures to Iran begging for oil.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:28 am to
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If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, then you must return them to dust


LSUgrrrl's new motto.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:36 am to
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A club in New York (The End) is holding what is calls "Intifada Fundraver" tonight. The invitation includes a video of the Hamas attack on Israel and the tearing down of the border fence which led to the massacre of hundreds of Israeli civilians pic.twitter.com/1hwamTXrAP — Barak Ravid (@BarakRavid) October 15, 2023


They should’ve had ICE at the exits, deport any illegally here to Gaza.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:40 am to
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KSA could give a shite about Gaza. This was about making Blinken and Biden look as impotent as they are because they pissed off KSA over several things, including overtures to Iran begging for oil.


Exactly. How many Gazan refugees are they taking in?

Zero.

Israel could turn Gaza into a parking lot, and his only concern would be where the salt and pepper shakers are during lunch.

They respect power. They abhor weakness.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14900 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 12:06 pm to
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This was about making Blinken and Biden look as impotent as they are because they pissed off KSA over several things, including overtures to Iran begging for oil.


This is more about appeasing their population. KSA has a tenuous control over their population, and doenst want to be seen as siding with Israel...

....question is what are they saying/doing behind closed doors....
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 12:21 pm to
@AFP
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#BREAKING EU to launch humanitarian air corridor to Gaza: European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen

Xwitter
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104591 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 12:27 pm to
The frick?


This doesn’t sound like “evacuation planes”, this sounds like “prevent Israel from bombing the frick out of Gaza.”
Posted by Terminal Lance
Member since Oct 2023
97 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 12:39 pm to
Israel should’ve launched their ground assault 3 or 4 days ago.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9623 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 12:47 pm to
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She reminded that the EU was tripling humanitarian aid to 75 million euros ($79 million) for the Gaza Strip.
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This from the article.

80 million divided by 2 million people. Roughly.

4 million per person ?
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 12:48 pm
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