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re: Israel Pfizer efficacy against covid-19 hospitalizations broken down by age group
Posted on 8/18/21 at 6:12 pm to ghost2most
Posted on 8/18/21 at 6:12 pm to ghost2most
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thick headed idiot on a vent with no insurance
Maybe that is who Govt should be mandating to take it. But they are NOT.
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 6:44 pm to Ingeniero
That picture is a damn lie, errbody knows sprinters like Demare and Jakobsen are fat cause every club rider in the world carrying 5 extra pounds or more says "I'm a sprinter".
BTW I am a sprinter...
BTW I am a sprinter...
Posted on 8/18/21 at 6:50 pm to MorbidTheClown
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7 Vaccinated Florida Patients Die of COVID; Nurse Calls Situation 'Disturbing'
OP posts a study involving millions of people and interpreted by scientists, and you post about 7 folks and a nurse. This exchange should be memorialized as the perfect example of the dumb motherfrickers who are anti-vaxers.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 6:53 pm to TaderSalad
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Still not getting one since it doesnt prevent the spread.
Stopping the spread and reducing it are two different things. The vaccines greatly reduce transmission for the average infected person. It is near impossible to have sterilizing immunity for mucosal viruses but you can use them to significantly reduce the infectiousness of the individual.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 6:58 pm to lsupride87
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So the numbers you are seeing in the OP are the CURRENT efficacy numbers against hospitalization
C'mon, lets be honest. I'm not concerned about the fully vaxed person in the hospital now am I? I'll likely never see that person
The person sitting next to me at the LSU game that is 'fully vaxed' can still catch and the pass the virus on to me, right? The mild symptom guy is the one that is most likely to put my life in danger, so his vaccination status doesnt mean shite to me at this point in time, does it?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 6:59 pm to RobbBobb
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so his vaccination status doesnt mean shite to me at this point in time, does it?
No. Your vaccination status matters most to you
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:02 pm to fightin tigers
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No. Your vaccination status matters most to you
And now we are back full circle to the OP, because as my vaccine starts to wane, I'm now likely to be the guy in the hospital, not the mild case at the LSU game
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:05 pm to RobbBobb
Does that make it no longer up to you to maintain your vax status?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:10 pm to QJenk
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So for people under 40, the risks of a severe case was already low. But the vaccine effectively lowered that risk even lower to practically zero.
A 31 time reduction in risk from statistically 0 is 0.
0/31=0
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:43 pm to The Boat
Life expectancy naturally: 78
Covid average age of death: 82
shut it down
Covid average age of death: 82
shut it down
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:47 pm to lsupride87
If they could also give info on the overall health (before Covid) for those unvaxxed severe cases, that would be great.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:50 pm to lsupride87
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The numbers are based on what they have seen in unvaxxed people in Israel in the latest wave(so it takes into account people who didn’t get the virus as well)not what would happen if you guaranteed an unvaxxed person got the virus So some people are severely underestimating the severity of covid in hwre(even though it’s still low)
Makes sense
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:51 pm to rocket31
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Life expectancy naturally: 78
Covid average age of death: 82
shut it down
Covid aside, you do understand how averages work? And last year was the largest life expectancy drop in the US since WW2. 1.5 years less.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:53 pm to fightin tigers
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you do understand how averages work?
fill me in...
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:54 pm to fightin tigers
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last year was the largest life expectancy drop in the US since WW2. 1.5 years less.
true and suicide from the emotional anxiety of lockdowns was pretty awful
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:10 pm to rocket31
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true and suicide from the emotional anxiety of lockdowns was pretty awful
Possible, do you have anything to back up this suicide theory?
Or was that miscounted as well.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:15 pm to ell_13
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To make it slightly clearer, the OP data says that 1 out of 500k people aged 30-39 vaccinated will get a sever case while 31 out of 500k will get a severe case in not vaxxed. Both scenarios are very, very low.
Most people don’t take action at a 31/500,000 chance.
I wonder what the chances are of me getting in a severe wreck on my way to pick up my son from school. I bet my chances of not getting in that wreck are much lower if I take him out of school and home school him.
That’s the point many make. People take “risks” all the time. If you want to be completely safe from any harm ever, fine. Stay home, don’t eat fried food, don’t drink alcohol, don’t see friends or family. At least you’re alive.
All true, but this also misses the point that the government clearly can’t communicate - vaccines have never really been about individual risk. They’re about putting the group above oneself. They obviously limit your individual risk quite a bit, but, more importantly, they help slow/stop the spread of a virus altogether.
That being said, I still support an individual’s right to tell the group to piss off.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:18 pm to slackster
Correct. Every child that currently gets vaccinated for measles, mumps, rubella etc etc is actually protecting all of us adults who are actually walking around with no immunity any more because our immunity has already waned
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:19 pm to lsupride87
Can we please quit worrying about Covid? It’s not Ebola!!!
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:19 pm to fightin tigers
the suicide thing was an emotional trigger just like all you covidians use
similar to clowns like oweo who gets on here wanting sympathy bc his 300 lb 75 years old 2nd uncle died from covid like it's my responsibility to protect these people
similar to clowns like oweo who gets on here wanting sympathy bc his 300 lb 75 years old 2nd uncle died from covid like it's my responsibility to protect these people
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