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re: Is your boss a micromanager too?
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:09 am to BulldogXero
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:09 am to BulldogXero
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I agree, but it's not always the employee's frick up.
True. But your supervisor should factor this into his handling of the situation. A good supervisor would be able to adjust his/her thinking surrounding the handling.
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Instead of shrugging off these occurrences, the gist is "Oops, well now it's on your record."
What line of work are you in?
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:17 am to RealityTiger
This has been an interesting thread for me. I just got a promotion into my first true supervisory position. And I've thought a lot about how I'm going to manage my employees. I definitely hate micromanagers.
I see it as a Golden Rule situation. Treat your employees like you would want to be treated. We all know when we frick up, and aren't surprised when our boss gets on to us about. If they're doing well, let them do their job.
I see it as a Golden Rule situation. Treat your employees like you would want to be treated. We all know when we frick up, and aren't surprised when our boss gets on to us about. If they're doing well, let them do their job.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:17 am to BulldogXero
A good project manager doesn't manage you, they teach you how to manage yourself.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:22 am to Tubedog13
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A good project manager doesn't manage you, they teach you how to manage yourself
There's a lot of cliche sayings about managing, that are very good advice.
The best lesson ever got was from my dad. He managed a pretty large company. But he knew everyone there, and treated them equally. From department managers to the lowest field guys. And when the lowest guys on the totem pole feel respected, it creates a very good culture, where people enjoying working. It also keeps turnover low. And that makes everyone's job easier.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 10:29 am
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:25 am to BulldogXero
That isn't micromanagement lol.
The closest thing I've ever been to micromanaged in a professional job is a typical front office Wall Street investor in a different department would continuously every day email me about my decision making processes from the day before that was reflecting her bottom line.
Why'd you do this or that. She didn't care what my answer was. I told her her straight up "listen, you have a lot of questions m. I have a solution. I'll include you on all the emails I use to set this shite up."
"No, that's fine. You do a good job updating me."
;(
In a less professional job, I was told I shouldn't even talk to the people I was working with. frick that shite.
The closest thing I've ever been to micromanaged in a professional job is a typical front office Wall Street investor in a different department would continuously every day email me about my decision making processes from the day before that was reflecting her bottom line.
Why'd you do this or that. She didn't care what my answer was. I told her her straight up "listen, you have a lot of questions m. I have a solution. I'll include you on all the emails I use to set this shite up."
"No, that's fine. You do a good job updating me."
;(
In a less professional job, I was told I shouldn't even talk to the people I was working with. frick that shite.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:26 am to BulldogXero
I work remote from home. I talk to my boss literally once a quarter to get new project assignments and debrief on existing projects.
That's about it for his management of me. Hell, sometimes I feel forgotten.
That's about it for his management of me. Hell, sometimes I feel forgotten.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:33 am to BulldogXero
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Requests to sit in on initial calls with client Requests that all issues with client big or small be brought to his attention even if you have the capacity to resolve issue yourself Sends customer satisfaction surveys upon project close. Expects written/verbal explanation when negative comments are left on survey even to more seasoned employees. Requests written next contact date in instances where project is placed on hold or initial call hasn't taken place.
As a manager, I've done this kind of thing before, but only when I was trying to build a case to fire someone who wasn't getting it done.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:37 am to Tubedog13
Lol, our current project manager may have taken that too far. I have no clue what he does but he's in Europe and the project is in NY. As his day ends, ours is just beginning. We hear from him twice a week.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:44 am to BulldogXero
I got lectured for 10 minutes on how to properly tie a trash bag once. After letting the owner of the company know this, I now manage myself.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:48 am to BulldogXero
I actually got quite lucky. Hired me as an inspection consultant for big O&G company. I’m in-house at refinery and rarely, if ever, talk to my manager.
Hoping said big O&G company hires me full time soon, though.
Hoping said big O&G company hires me full time soon, though.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:49 am to DuckManiak
Do you have certs through API?
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:58 am to BulldogXero
I don't even talk to my staff about work related stuff everyday. If I have to micromanage you, you're getting fired. I need employees who make my life easier.
I don't know why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
The worst are the managers who are intimated by people who may be smarter than them. They'd rather herd idiots all day than have a free thinker on their staff.
I don't know why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
The worst are the managers who are intimated by people who may be smarter than them. They'd rather herd idiots all day than have a free thinker on their staff.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 10:59 am
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:02 am to CCTider
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This has been an interesting thread for me. I just got a promotion into my first true supervisory position. And I've thought a lot about how I'm going to manage my employees. I definitely hate micromanagers.
Check out the book Turn the Ship Around! by David Marquet
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 11:09 am
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:07 am to BulldogXero
I always find the balance fascinating between micromanaging and giving too much rope. For every employee I have, it varies. I have people I know value and need more direction than others. I have to vary my management style for each individual because everyone responds differently.
My boss is very hands off. He wants to be keyed in on high level stuff that will impact financials and or schedule only. He is in charge of big picture stuff where me and my level of management have more day to day responsibility.
My boss is very hands off. He wants to be keyed in on high level stuff that will impact financials and or schedule only. He is in charge of big picture stuff where me and my level of management have more day to day responsibility.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:13 am to BulldogXero
YES....SHE IS
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:15 am to BulldogXero
Yes, I am.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:26 am to BulldogXero
She can be at times but other times she isn't.
In my case, I keep the project database as clean as possible (even though I've had very little formal training on it--most of what I know I've picked up along the way) so that keeps her happy.
Plus I don't have any issues with my team members disliking me (unlike some of the other supervisors where it is a recurring problem--one in particular makes up for her lack of technical expertise with sheer rudeness).
In my case, I keep the project database as clean as possible (even though I've had very little formal training on it--most of what I know I've picked up along the way) so that keeps her happy.
Plus I don't have any issues with my team members disliking me (unlike some of the other supervisors where it is a recurring problem--one in particular makes up for her lack of technical expertise with sheer rudeness).
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:38 am to CCTider
In my experience, if you have a micromanager as a boss, a few months of doing everything they ask goes a long way toward ridding yourself of that burden.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:38 am to BulldogXero
Sounds like your boss doesn't think you do your job well. I love the comments from the here is how to treat employees to stay. You are all expendable, myself included so anyone who thinks their value is more than what it is might want to check that attitude.
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