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re: Is Tony Spell a crazy Christian?

Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:20 pm to
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:20 pm to
Sounds more like a Jim Jones Cult following than a place of worship.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18895 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:21 pm to
My word. I’ve seen it all now. These people know nothing of God.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18895 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:23 pm to
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OK...

So how exactly can one be a Christian if they literally don’t believe in the divinity of Christ?

There’s literally nothing to “bicker” about.


Spot on. He just didn’t care to admit or believe that there are actually guidelines for Christianity.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:25 pm to
That’s sad. I hate him even more now.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20193 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:29 pm to
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Make Baptist look normal.


Baptists make Baptists look normal. Every large group will have some bad apples though.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20193 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

OK...

So how exactly can one be a Christian if one literally doesn’t believe in the divinity of Christ?

There’s nothing to “bicker” about


One simply can't. That's a foundational brick of Christian faith. Anything else of an espoused belief is a wolf in sheep's clothing, lie of Satan. Jesus himself claimed divinity numerous times, most explicitly when he called himself "I am!" In John 8:58 and when he claimed the Temple was HIS house in one of the Gospels when he threw the money changers out.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 8:35 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34958 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:34 pm to
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Every large group will have some bad apples though.


Point me out a Baptist. I’ll show you a hypocritical pos.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:39 pm to
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. He’s not a Christian at all.
you're in no position to say who is or isn't a Christian. One doesn't necessarily believe in the Holy Spirit to be saved. The Bible clearly says one has to believe in the Son to be saved; it doesn't say anything about one having to believe in the Spirit. And bc I know how predictable you idiots are, no I'm not Pentecostal nor have any affiliation with Spell or any other denomination whatsoever.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18895 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:40 pm to
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Point me out a Baptist. I’ll show you a hypocritical pos.


If 45 or above you’re probably right. The younger generation is more Calvinistic and much more likely to be normal people.

Though I’ve graduated to Presbyterianism.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:43 pm to
For the record this Church is not a United Pentecostal Church.

Second as a UPC Church member, we believe that you have to be baptized in Jesus name, just like most religions.

I don't know this man or this Church personally, but it is dangerous and very unfair to condemn a church organization based on the actions of one.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34958 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:43 pm to
What’s the best way to keep a Baptist from drinking your beer on a fishing trip? Bring a second Baptist.

Unfortunately then you’ll have to listen to them try to put Baptist each other the whole fricking day.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18895 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:44 pm to
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you're in no position to say who is or isn't a Christian


You’re absolutely wrong.

I never said that he’s an unregenerate reprobate. He might, by God’s grace, be saved. It doesn’t seem that he is, but I’m not ruling it out.

I can, with 100% certainty say he’s not a Christian, because the ecumenical councils have already defined Christianity. Modalists don’t make the cut.

Again, not a Christian by definition, but might be saved. That’s up to God.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18895 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:45 pm to
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Second as a UPC Church member, we believe that you have to be baptized in Jesus name, just like most religions.
sly...see how the deception works?
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20193 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:48 pm to
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Point me out a Baptist. I’ll show you a hypocritical pos.


Show me anyone of faith, and I will show you a "hypocrite" by the definition of the word. The Bible itself says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Thus the need for salvation in Jesus. Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, etc...are all fallable humans saved by grace, even so the absolute BEST one can do, post salvation, is to try to act as Jesus would.

You seem to have some unrealistic expectations of people who happen to still be human.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34958 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:50 pm to
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You seem to have some unrealistic expectations of people who happen to still be human.


No. I just see Baptist for what they are. Scum arse hypocrite fricks who try to act holier than thou.

Fake. Each and every last one of them. Fake arse hypocrite fricks.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18895 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:52 pm to


I do agree. Being fake is different than admitting you’ll never “arrive” this side of heaven. And I’ve met many Baptists who think they’ve arrived. Again, mostly older folks.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 8:54 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:56 pm to


The Spell's can't spell constitutional....literally. It cost to be the boss.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:56 pm to
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One doesn't necessarily believe in the Holy Spirit to be saved. The Bible clearly says one has to believe in the Son to be saved;


The problem is that they believe that the Father is God and that’s it. Christ is a separate entity outside of the Godhead.

How exactly do you believe in Christ if he’s not the Lord?

And this isn’t me being judgmental, it’s objectively true that they can’t be Christians. Like the guy you’re replying to said, they may very well be saved. That’s certainly not up to me.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 8:58 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:00 pm to
When I was picking up take out at Cocha this afternoon, a group of about a dozen protesters showed up and wanted to pull all the tables outside together so that they could eat as a group. They had flown in from four different states...
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20193 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:00 pm to
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One doesn't necessarily believe in the Holy Spirit to be saved


But yes, one does believe in the Holy Spirit when one believes in Christ and asks him into their heart. The Christian doesn't literally ask Jesus into their heart physically, they know he is being invited in spiritually to dwell. The believer's heart intuitively understands it is accepting the Holy Spirit simultaneously when salvation occurs based upon belief and acceptance of Jesus.
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