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re: Is the whole “veterans need special treatment” overblown?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:30 pm to Caraway Rye
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:30 pm to Caraway Rye
Who did you serve with?
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:31 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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There's not much use for 100 tanks or an aircraft carrier in Kansas though, is there?
Hoe many tanks and aircraft carriers are currently in Kansas?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:32 pm to Caraway Rye
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They have a net negative local taxpayer value of $55,575 at starting salary.
So you are maintaining that police officers have no value, and in fact are a net drain on society? The same with firefighters and EMS?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:34 pm to Breauxsif
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Who did you serve with?
They never answer that question.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:37 pm to Centinel
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So you are maintaining that police officers have no value, and in fact are a net drain on society? The same with firefighters and EMS?
They do not have a quantifiable value other than the negative dollars from tax coffers
Correct
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:38 pm to EarlyCuyler3
So you have an issue with military budgeting and allocation of resources?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:38 pm to Caraway Rye
I look forward to the day your house burns down, your wife is raped, and you have a heart attack.
Again, idiots like you is why libertarianism will never be taken seriously in this country.
Again, idiots like you is why libertarianism will never be taken seriously in this country.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:39 pm to Caraway Rye
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They do not have a quantifiable value other than the negative dollars from tax coffers
Correct
That isn't the same as:
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They actually have negative worth on taxpayers
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:16 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:When will they ever learn? You live for this
DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:27 pm to Caraway Rye
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The starting salary of a police officer where I am is $57,000 a year paid by local taxpayers
Correct, that's how it usually works.
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They get paid 2.5% percent less dollars than that because of our local income taxes
Okay
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They have a net negative local taxpayer value of $55,575 at starting salary.
What do you mean a net negative local taxpayer value? As in what their value is to the community? I don't know where you live, but do the majority of tax dollars come from individual citizens or from businesses? My follow up depends on this answer.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:04 pm to Wolfhound45
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When will they ever learn?
Hopefully never.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:50 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Hoe many tanks and aircraft carriers are currently in Kansas?
No idea. That's my point. The police and firefighters are useful there and the military isn't. So it is a problem of being useful.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:02 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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No idea. That's my point.
Well, that's my point, too.
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The police and firefighters are useful there and the military isn't. So it is a problem of being useful.
If you think the military is only tanks and aircraft carriers, I can understand why you have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:06 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I don't think that. I was simply saying his comparison was a false equivalence.
By and large I would agree that military spending is a giant money pit though.
By and large I would agree that military spending is a giant money pit though.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:09 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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I don't think that.
Why else would you say the military isn't useful in Kansas after making a point about tanks and aircraft carriers there?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:09 pm to fareplay
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Is the whole “veterans need special treatment” overblown?
Depends on the veteran. If it's a veteran like me who served and was unscathed both mentally and physically after our tour(s). I don't expect anything other than what I signed up for. GI Bill and other benefits like Vet loan.
I do think it would go along way if people wouldn't disrespect the flag by kneeling, burning it, or trashing the Constitution but that's their right. Not gonna lie. That disrespect pisses me off to no end.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:09 pm to fareplay
“I fought in the interest the oil companies and the the military-industrial complex, respect me.” Get out of here.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:12 pm to fareplay
I’m sure that 10 pages in that everything that needs to be said has been said, but not everybody has said it so here are my 2 cents.
Yes our military pays our soldiers to do a job, but I’m a thankful beneficiary of their work and will acknowledge that every chance I get.
Yes our military pays our soldiers to do a job, but I’m a thankful beneficiary of their work and will acknowledge that every chance I get.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:13 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Why else would you say the military isn't useful in Kansas after making a point about tanks and aircraft carriers there?
How much money is spent on an aircraft carrier vs their usefulness in Kansas?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:18 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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How much money is spent on an aircraft carrier vs their usefulness in Kansas?
Well, let's assume there are zero aircraft carriers in Kansas. That would mean the answer is $0.00 is spent on aircraft carriers in Kansas.
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