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Is the charm of European cities due to the lack of strip malls and big box stores?

Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:10 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:10 pm
I know Walmart has a presence in UK but nowhere else in Europe. Also Cosco is making some inroads into Spain and France. Other than that, are strip malls and big box stores essentially banned in old world European cities?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:11 pm to
I’d rather wal marts than mosques
Posted by tterrific
Member since Sep 2022
649 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:13 pm to
You're overthinking it. Compare populations and go from there.
Posted by LSUcdro
Republic of West Florida
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:13 pm to
demographics
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118823 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:13 pm to
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I’d rather wal marts than mosques





No doubt. Both can be detrimental to existing cultural and architectural norms.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15774 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:14 pm to
Town squares. I love them in Europe. Every American city should have had one.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:14 pm to
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Is the charm of European cities due to the lack of strip malls and big box stores?



Uhh no. As someone who has traveled through Europe for both work and pleasure, the only draw for me is history. In no way shape or form do I find their lifestyles better than mine. Sure there are some exceptions. As the US becomes more globalist it will be harder to distinguish.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9600 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:14 pm to
Walkability is something people like about European countries. Strip malls and big box stores don’t fit with that.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:15 pm to
Yes. Most of the US is a parking lot. We have so few third spaces anymore. We also destroyed a lot of really wonderful examples of US architecture for these places. The City Museum in St. Louis had examples of the stonework done by masons in the Midwest, particularly Chicago, and the attention to detail and scope was amazing. Designing cities around exclusive use of the car has been beyond detrimental to Americans.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6289 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:15 pm to
Here goes another poster romanticizing Europe. Nothing charming about loading up a Ford fiesta with enough food to fit inside a dorm room fridge.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118823 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:18 pm to
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Nothing charming about loading up a Ford fiesta with enough food to fit inside a dorm room fridge.



But that's the thing, you don't need giant refrigerator/freezer if your source of fresh fruits, vegetables, dairy and meats are walking distance from your kitchen.
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 12:20 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:18 pm to


europoors don't know what they're missing out on
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:19 pm to
Architecture and non processed food.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55652 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:20 pm to
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Nothing charming about loading up a Ford fiesta with enough food to fit inside a dorm room fridge.
is filling up an f150 at costco supposed to be charming?
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60608 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:21 pm to
It’s architecture, most of the cities were built before the US was even a fleeting thought

Back then people had pride in the things they built. Structures were built with an eye towards art and beauty rather than just simple utility. From small character and details of lesser structures to the grandiose cathedrals and libraries
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:21 pm to
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Here goes another poster romanticizing Europe. Nothing charming about loading up a Ford fiesta with enough food to fit inside a dorm room fridge.


People don’t realize that the more “culture” a place has, the less receptive it is to change. There’s a reason places like TX continue to grow so fast, there’s no ‘norms’ to hold them back.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117711 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:21 pm to
The roads and highways there were built around town/cities.

Here, the towns and cities are built around roads/interstates.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
5457 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:39 pm to
Texas has more “culture” than most states do.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67097 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:41 pm to
The “charm” is walkable communities where people live and work in historic looking mid-rise structures and never need a car. In most places in the U.S., zoning insured there would never be enough population density for those kinds of neighborhoods outside a few old cities that developed well-before the car.
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79226 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 12:43 pm to
I guess if you're talking about city centers/old towns but I'm sure most of those cities have big box stores elsewhere in the city proper.

The charm is the same as core neighborhoods in old US cities, and just like in those cities you'll usually find a Starbucks or some other major chain snuck in subtly to a historic building.
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