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re: Is TEXIT done now?
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Unlike the federal government, Texas will learn from this and improve.
Given it was private industry holding the pieces that failed, not sure how you expect this to happen without regulation.
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:23 am to Stexas
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Does TEXIT look less appealing now knowing you may not be able to keep warm for a few days in the winter once every 45-50 years?
America looks less appealing with $27 trillion in debt, the largest spying apparatus in world history, a political class that sends its soldiers to die in far-flung shitholes in imperialistic wars and a system that actively suppresses viewpoints outside the establishment wings of two political parties.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:27 am to goofball
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The media will never cover the failure of the solar and wind energy sources.
Ercot has stated the issue is mostly from frozen infrastructure at gas, coal, and nuclear plants.
Instead of making it partisan, perhaps we should just blame it on a once-a-generation weather event that strained the systems.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:31 am to The Spleen
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Instead of making it partisan, perhaps we should just blame it on a once-a-generation weather event that strained the systems.
Agreed. The media should also not start making parallels to global warming if we are to abide by this decision
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:31 am to goofball
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The media will never cover the failure of the solar and wind energy sources.
I have seen it covered.
Not sure why you expect it to be headline news when 80+% of the loss of generation capacity is from plants burning fossil fuels.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:31 am to The Spleen
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from frozen infrastructure at gas, coal, and nuclear plants
I haven't read anything about nuclear problem specifically. Just now saw them mentioned.
Weird these all freeze up. I can't imagine that technology radically differs between Texas and somewhere else but maybe, like everything else in the south, due to cost efficiency don't have as strong of a cold weather plan.
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 11:35 am
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:34 am to Stexas
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Is this power grid failure the left wing’s attempt to convince oil and gas conservatives not the leave the union? Does TEXIT look less appealing now knowing you may not be able to keep warm for a few days in the winter once every 45-50 years?
Yes...haven't you seen Q's post on the secret weather ray that the Dumbocrats are using to bring the Winter Storm to Texas? This is just a ploy to scare them into submission in exchange for Federal relief.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:44 am to Dam Guide
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Unlike the federal government, Texas will learn from this and improve.
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TVA has always done really well in storms, cheap power to the people. Fed gov can do just as well or better and cheap.
Just have trouble with coal ash, but that has been fixed.
ETA...responding to your comment...but as a DAM
Many TVA plants have switched to combined cycle Natural Gas. As of 2020, only 14% of TVA generation came from coal. Most came from Nuclear (41%, and 27% came from Natural Gas). Nearly as much TVA energy comes from Hydro (13%) as comes from coal as this point. So that is addressing both the emissions and coal ash issues.
While TVA is quasi-federal (federally owned corporation), many have been pushing for TVA to go private for years now.
ETA...while I'm responding to your comment...as a Dam Guide, I'm sure that this is stuff you already know. Personally, I think privatization of TVA would be a huge mistake.
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 11:46 am
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:46 am to Stexas
Mother Texas shall prevail.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:49 am to Stexas
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Is this power grid failure the left wing’s attempt to convince oil and gas conservatives not the leave the union?
You don't go making rash decisions during or due to a once in a few generations event. It is still a go, baw. You're still going to need that Passport to enter the great country of Tejas.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:53 am to LegendInMyMind
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You don't go making rash decisions during or due to a once in a few generations event. It is still a go, baw. You're still going to need that Passport to enter the great country of Tejas.
Lulz.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:57 am to madmaxvol
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While TVA is quasi-federal (federally owned corporation), many have been pushing for TVA to go private for years now.
It would be a huge bust for this area. Even the Republicans in this area realize how much this socialism means to this region of the country. TVA pulls in all sorts of industry due to the stability of the grid and prices. Democrats seem to push for privatization way more than Republicans, they want to attack this area of the country I think.
Coal is going to continue to be less and less of the portfolio, which I think is a mistake, but a lot of these plants needed major updating to meet standards. TVA shut down a very well running plant due to North Carolina suing TVA for pollution in John Sevier and replaced it with CC gas. Replacing with gas I think will be an issue in a decade or two, hopefully small modular reactors start becoming more reality. TVA really needs to invest more in hydro as well, produces a ton of money that gets funneled to the rest of the company.
I think everyone wants another Raccoon Mountain, but finding a location that won't make environmentalists go bananas will be tough.
Would take an act of congress to sell TVA, so hopefully that will keep it from becoming reality. TVA seems to have gotten a handle on the debt from attempting to build way too many nuke plants, so hopefully that keeps congress looking at it too closely.
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 11:59 am
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:00 pm to SCLibertarian
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America looks less appealing with $27 trillion in debt, the largest spying apparatus in world history, a political class that sends its soldiers to die in far-flung shitholes in imperialistic wars and a system that actively suppresses viewpoints outside the establishment wings of two political parties.
America is headed for disaster. Will be a nation of the vanguard leading the hundreds of millions of poor, dependent people. Exiting now seems like the best time. A nice coalition of states seems better than the current impending failures.
No doubt states like Texas and California can make it without the federal govt..
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:03 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Weird these all freeze up. I can't imagine that technology radically differs between Texas and somewhere else but maybe, like everything else in the south, due to cost efficiency don't have as strong of a cold weather plan.
There’s a slight difference in the logistical tech (automation, etc) used because it’s known that it will experience these kinds of issues. This is a rare event and you don’t engineer for a 2 day in 500 year event and stay economical.
Also, they purposefully plan to take down units this time of year for maintenance so that added a shite load of lost gen capacity. This system can move a frick load of power, look at the august numbers, but it wasn’t ready for this and that’s a planning failure.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:39 pm to Stexas
With all the other things Texas does get right - I don’t think this power thing is a big deal.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:03 pm to GreenRockTiger
I would move back in a second if family would follow.
119 downvotes is my new record, thanks OT!
119 downvotes is my new record, thanks OT!
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:16 pm to LSUBoo
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As if we need more federal regulations.
Off the top of my head, I'm having trouble thinking of a recent major regulation that didn't have some painful unintended consequences.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:17 pm to Stexas
Texas is a great state, these baws tripping. It is arguably the best state in many ways. I think most of La would concur that Texas is awesome.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:18 pm to Stexas
Yep. Just like Valley Forge ended the AR
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:18 pm to Stexas
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Is this power grid failure the left wing’s attempt to convince oil and gas conservatives not the leave the union?
I don't think the left caused a major ice storm.
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