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re: Is PB&J not allowed in school anymore?
Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:47 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:47 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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No, i'm calling out your post that I quoted. You are the one i'm calling out for failing to understand a basic concept.
Good for you.
Like I said, not sure what to tell you here.
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:48 pm to Dadren
You don't have to tell me anything, I know you are lacking comprehension skills.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:58 pm to fr33manator
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But we all know there are mothers out there whose kid has a "peanut" (and other) allergies.
You know what happens? A rash. Some hives. But they demand that all the other kids be denied peanut stuff.
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But we all know there are mothers out there whose kid has a "peanut" (and other) allergies.
You know what happens? A rash. Some hives. But they demand that all the other kids be denied peanut stuff.
see thats not how this works. if you are going to call people out, at least know wtf you are talking about.
1) those with allergies to peanuts, tree nuts and shellfish have their reaction worsen with time. each new exposure of the protein could set off the reaction at anytime to a worse and worse degree until its suddenly a life or death situation
my middle kid has severe reaction within 2 min of him ingesting the protein for the first time when he was under 2. my older son is allergic but doesnt get reactions the times he has accidently had PB.
my kids know not to eat it and are older and have still had incidents
its not just a rash and some hives.
my oldest is so allergic to shrimp that if we dont hit him with epipen immediately or get him to the ER right away then....chance he might not make it. now it has to be full ingestion of the protein in sufficient quantity but point remains
but im sure FR33 knows more than the world class doctors at Texas Children's.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:02 pm to lsu777
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its not just a rash and some hives.
I have to believe he knows this and is just trolling at this point.
Then again, sometimes people suprise me with the things they believe to be true.
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:03 pm to Deuces
Peanut butter allergy would be a curse.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:05 pm to lsu777
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the reaction at anytime to a worse and worse degree until its suddenly a life or death situation
Honest question, if it is so deadly, why do so few die from it? The US clearly does an amazing job of mitigating this risk.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:12 pm to Deuces
How ridiculous. Plates of plain spaghetti for everyone? Lots of food has allergens.
Reminds me of when we were in BR following Katrina. The popular school was going to be a couple of weeks so we didn’t want to waste time and enrolled our kids in St Louis King of France until we could get back home. We were in Greenwell Springs/Central anyway. Our kids could not take their lunch, school rules. It was an odd school and glad when we got back home. We were told it was good academically.
Reminds me of when we were in BR following Katrina. The popular school was going to be a couple of weeks so we didn’t want to waste time and enrolled our kids in St Louis King of France until we could get back home. We were in Greenwell Springs/Central anyway. Our kids could not take their lunch, school rules. It was an odd school and glad when we got back home. We were told it was good academically.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:17 pm to Dawgfanman
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Honest question, if it is so deadly, why do so few die from it? The US clearly does an amazing job of mitigating this risk.
I can’t find the article, but I read something that stated deaths from anaphylaxis had decreased over the fast decade and cited increased awareness and handling of food allergies specifically.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:17 pm to Dixie2023
Schools operating the NSLP are required to have a wellness policy, which may be super robust and not allow any junk foods, or may be super lax/unenforced.
Health concerns aside, a lot of schools ban things like soft drinks, candy, energy drinks, snack cakes, etc. because it creates behavioral problems when the kids are still young. A bunch of 1st graders aren't mature enough to understand why Johnny is allowed to suck down Coca Cola and Sour Patch Kids for lunch while they are stuck with baked chicken with milk.
Not allowing lunch from home at all whatsoever is pretty weird, though.
Health concerns aside, a lot of schools ban things like soft drinks, candy, energy drinks, snack cakes, etc. because it creates behavioral problems when the kids are still young. A bunch of 1st graders aren't mature enough to understand why Johnny is allowed to suck down Coca Cola and Sour Patch Kids for lunch while they are stuck with baked chicken with milk.
Not allowing lunch from home at all whatsoever is pretty weird, though.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:27 pm to LouisianaLady
Thank for the explanation. My kids have always taken lunch so it was weird and they gave no explanation. They did sell candy on Fridays! Seems forced lunch buying could cause financial issues for some, idk. We were only there a little while bf returning home, so didn’t want to make waves about it.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:33 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
What is stupid about it?
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:37 pm to CatfishJohn
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One year a kid in my son's class had a severe nut allergy and they asked us to refrain from using peanut butter/nuts. Lame, but I get it. Sucks for that family to deal with that.
This is the real debate.
It does suck for the child/family that has the allergy. But I'm sure the child is one of 20, 30 kids in a class...19, 29 of which DO NOT have an allergy. But somewhere along the line society shifted to the mindset that the overwhelming majority should change their behavior to adapt the needs of the overwhelming minority, rather than the minority changing their behaviors to adapt to exist with the majority. If the majority keeps changing its behaviors to meet the needs of the minority eventually you end up with a completely isolated society because there will ALWAYS be some burden, need, risk to accommodate.
It really comes down to an issue of perceived accountability. If I am the only person within a group of 100 people who has a specific risk/disability is it MY responsibility to adjust my behaviors to ensure I can co-exist with the other 99? Or is it the other 99's responsibility to change their behaviors so they can co-exist with me? For me, it's my burden. I can not like that I have that burden. But I would be ashamed to demand the majority adjust to suit me.
The irony is many parents like those in your son's class would likely call you and the parents of the other 99% of the class selfish for refusing to adjust your behaviors to accommodate their child while ignoring the fact they are selfishly demanding the 99% to adjust to their specific issue.
If my child can't swim do I demand her friends not have a swim party to accommodate my child's "disability"? Or do I keep my child at home so that the other 99% can enjoy their swim party?
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:37 pm to Dawgfanman
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Honest question, if it is so deadly, why do so few die from it? The US clearly does an amazing job of mitigating this risk.
because we do a good job of mitigating it with epipens and most kids have a mild reaction the first time. its rarely 1 and done...its more first time its slight red patches, then more and more until full blown hives then boom suddenly its life or death.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:39 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Banning all kids from food items containing peanut products because there is potentially one that can be harmed by it is a stupid way of dealing with the situation. Identify the kid(s) that would be impacted by such a thing ahead of time and make accommodations for them accordingly.
I'm curious what the school did in this scenario. Did they provide the OP's kid with a lunch since they didn't allow his? I don't know what kind of notice they gave prior to the thing, but seems the OP was unaware that peanut products weren't allowed. Did they go through everyone's lunch and remove all food items that contained any peanut or peanut oil? For anything homecooked, did they verify what it was cooked in?
I'm curious what the school did in this scenario. Did they provide the OP's kid with a lunch since they didn't allow his? I don't know what kind of notice they gave prior to the thing, but seems the OP was unaware that peanut products weren't allowed. Did they go through everyone's lunch and remove all food items that contained any peanut or peanut oil? For anything homecooked, did they verify what it was cooked in?
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:39 pm to Alt26
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This is the real debate.
It does suck for the child/family that has the allergy. But I'm sure the child is one of 20, 30 kids in a class...19, 29 of which DO NOT have an allergy. But somewhere along the line society shifted to the mindset that the overwhelming majority should change their behavior to adapt the needs of the overwhelming minority, rather than the minority changing their behaviors to adapt to exist with the majority. If the majority keeps changing its behaviors to meet the needs of the minority eventually you end up with a completely isolated society because there will ALWAYS be some burden, need, risk to accommodate.
It really comes down to an issue of perceived accountability. If I am the only person within a group of 100 people who has a specific risk/disability is it MY responsibility to adjust my behaviors to ensure I can co-exist with the other 99? Or is it the other 99's responsibility to change their behaviors so they can co-exist with me? For me, it's my burden. I can not like that I have that burden. But I would be ashamed to demand the majority adjust to suit me.
The irony is many parents like those in your son's class would likely call you and the parents of the other 99% of the class selfish for refusing to adjust your behaviors to accommodate their child while ignoring the fact they are selfishly demanding the 99% to adjust to their specific issue.
If my child can't swim do I demand her friends not have a swim party to accommodate my child's "disability"? Or do I keep my child at home so that the other 99% can enjoy their swim party?
no dumbass that is not what happened
1) kids started having issues because they cant even be around it as it can become air borne or it gets on a kids skin from kid eating it being messy or even the cases of kids putting it on allergic kids to just be an a-hole
2) schools get sued
3) now nobody can have it.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:39 pm to Alt26
quote:you’re not a small child who is legally required to be in school
If I am the only person within a group of 100 people who has a specific risk/disability is it MY responsibility to adjust my behaviors to ensure I can co-exist with the other 99? Or is it the other 99's responsibility to change their behaviors so they can co-exist with me?
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:41 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Kids can’t go to school because other kids can’t go without peanut butter for 7 hours or someone might die. Yeah that makes sense
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:42 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Banning all kids from food items containing peanut products because there is potentially one that can be harmed by it is a stupid way of dealing with the situation. Identify the kid(s) that would be impacted by such a thing ahead of time and make accommodations for them accordingly.
tell me you have never been around kids and especially kids with allergies without telling me
i really hope a lot of you do not have kids because its not possible your iq is much above 100.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:42 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Kids can’t go to school because other kids can’t go without peanut butter for 7 hours or someone might die. Yeah that makes sense
Want to try that one again? Who said anything about kids not going to school?
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:42 pm to Deuces
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When they enter the work place one day, unless they work remotely, will everyone at that work place have to eliminate all peanut products there as a term of their employment?
I think the difference is children are naive idiots and adults who have severe allergies know what to do to protect themselves
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