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Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:12 am to baxter12
Could she qualify for govt assistance due to situation?
Sounds like house is unaffordable for her
Sounds like house is unaffordable for her
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:13 am to Rouge
That's awful generous.
Once they fall behind it gets harder and harder to catch up. Just had to get the constables to put someone out who we've gotten eviction judgements on for 6 straight months.
Once they fall behind it gets harder and harder to catch up. Just had to get the constables to put someone out who we've gotten eviction judgements on for 6 straight months.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:20 am to Aspercel
Thanks for all the feedback. We know that we have been more than nice about this. We don't need the rental money to stay afloat we just use this extra as our little oil well so to speak. The lady takes very good care of the property doesn't seem to live beyond her means, non smoker no pets etc Which makes our lives easier in that aspect. Unfortunately her nonpayment this time is apart of a written agreement we had that she came up with.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:28 am to Draconian Sanctions
You cant be a nice guy and be in the rental business. You'll get taken advantage of every time.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 8:29 am
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:33 am to baxter12
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The lady takes very good care of the property doesn't seem to live beyond her means, non smoker no pets etc Which makes our lives easier in that aspect.
To me, this is key. You are describing someone who - despite seeming to be in a tough situation - is trying to do the right things.
You seem to be a good person who has been willing to accommodate her and her daughter and bend the rules a bit.
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Unfortunately her nonpayment this time is apart of a written agreement we had that she came up with.
Life is mostly a big grey area with small slices of black and white. Yes, there may be a written agreement, but that doesn't necessarily mean you have to enforce it without regard for her personal situation. Act based on the person, not the document.
In the end, it's obviously your property and your decision. But continue to think on it and try not to let "the letter of the law" play too big of a role. Yes, those documents exist for a reason, but I doubt she's going to go around telling deadbeat friends to move into this property she just moved out of because the landlord is a pushover.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:33 am to baxter12
I am a long term landlord. I currently have a tenant that has been with me about 10 years.
She too is a single mom raising two daughters. And I have likely never raised her rent.
She hardly ever calls and breaks her payments down to the 1 and 15. But they come in on the 15 and 30.
She knows that those are my limits and abides by them for the most part. Otherwise, I get nasty.
I think with you more than the money, it is the annoyance of being late consistently.
At one point she lost her business and was in dire straights. I forgave a months rent in order for her to catch up. She has always remembered that.
I do run a business and have evicted a testy tenant who was always two weeks late. Her attitude got her to the curb.
If I were you, considering all you've stated (5 years, not extravagant, takes care of the place) I would think about wiping the slate clean, with the understanding that if it happens again she will have to go.
It's a business, but it's a people business too.
She too is a single mom raising two daughters. And I have likely never raised her rent.
She hardly ever calls and breaks her payments down to the 1 and 15. But they come in on the 15 and 30.
She knows that those are my limits and abides by them for the most part. Otherwise, I get nasty.
I think with you more than the money, it is the annoyance of being late consistently.
At one point she lost her business and was in dire straights. I forgave a months rent in order for her to catch up. She has always remembered that.
I do run a business and have evicted a testy tenant who was always two weeks late. Her attitude got her to the curb.
If I were you, considering all you've stated (5 years, not extravagant, takes care of the place) I would think about wiping the slate clean, with the understanding that if it happens again she will have to go.
It's a business, but it's a people business too.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 9:23 am
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:33 am to baxter12
Sit down and talk to her first
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:35 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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You cant be a nice guy and be in the rental business. You'll get taken advantage of every time.
All things being equal, I agree with this.
But this...
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The lady takes very good care of the property doesn't seem to live beyond her means, non smoker no pets etc
...tells me that this isn't some jackass who is just trying to take advantage of the OP. Sounds like they really are trying to make good, but money is just that tight.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:35 am to baxter12
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baxter12
Where do you think her paychecks are going? To things of necessity? Is she over her head in bills?
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:36 am to baxter12
My tenants were a pain in the arse with partial and late payments for three years. When I had enough and decided not to renew their lease, they rewarded me by leaving behind thousands of dollars worth of damage. I can't squeeze blood out of a rock, so it's money I will never see back.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:42 am to PairofDucks
quote:were they not arrested and put in the pokie?
When I had enough and decided not to renew their lease, they rewarded me by leaving behind thousands of dollars worth of damage.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:44 am to baxter12
She obviously cannot afford the home. Help her find a place more affordable.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:45 am to baxter12
Get her (and your property) approved for section 8.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:49 am to baxter12
Maybe she could get govt assistance for being single with a child under 18, especially if special needs
Hopefully you can have a discussion of all possibilities
Good luck
Hopefully you can have a discussion of all possibilities
Good luck
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:51 am to baxter12
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Would you guys evict a single mom and her 16 year old daughter knowing they would possibly be homeless?
Yes. She is stealing from you. This is a tough world and she should learn that.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:52 am to baxter12
That's a tough call. Where is this????? If it's in the BR area I would have a problem evicting them, just because there is nothing available. But you still have an agreement with her and she needs to get it fixed.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:54 am to baxter12
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FYI we have not increased rent in 5 years
You've also had 60 months of continuous occupancy and 60 months without any cleaning, painting or remodeling expenses so you're way ahead of the game compared to most landlords. I'd do everything I could to hold on to a tenant like that.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:57 am to UGATiger26
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The lady takes very good care of the property doesn't seem to live beyond her means, non smoker no pets etc
...tells me that this isn't some jackass who is just trying to take advantage of the OP. Sounds like they really are trying to make good, but money is just that tight.
I didnt read the whole thread, but yea thats tough. its hard to find good renters and if she's been there a long time and has been pretty good, you might try to work with her. Also if you can afford to. But if you're paying a note on the house, you can only do so much. as the guy who manages my rentals always says: "Either my kids get to eat or theirs do."
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 8:58 am
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:57 am to baxter12
1) If you plan on evicting do not take any more payment from her unless it is for the full owed amount.
2) If you feel bad about it, just go over to her home and speak with her. Try to work something out that she pays just a bit extra each pay period for her to get her caught up. Her concerns are likely the same as yours. She is a single mom, doesn't want to be out on the street and is afraid to speak to you over the phone because she is afraid of what you will say. So, offer up some help for her.
3) What does your signed lease agreement say about past due rent? Is there a time frame on how late your occupier can be before they are evicted?
4) Do you have a good lawyer? If you have been taking partial payments from her for this long, you're going to need a good lawyer if you just up and evict her and put her on the street.
2) If you feel bad about it, just go over to her home and speak with her. Try to work something out that she pays just a bit extra each pay period for her to get her caught up. Her concerns are likely the same as yours. She is a single mom, doesn't want to be out on the street and is afraid to speak to you over the phone because she is afraid of what you will say. So, offer up some help for her.
3) What does your signed lease agreement say about past due rent? Is there a time frame on how late your occupier can be before they are evicted?
4) Do you have a good lawyer? If you have been taking partial payments from her for this long, you're going to need a good lawyer if you just up and evict her and put her on the street.
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